On Tue, 23 Jan 2007 11:16:57 +1100
Alex Samad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Mon, Jan 22, 2007 at 11:21:29PM +0000, Rev Simon Rumble wrote:
> > 
> > A really simple two-factor authentication is for them to sms a 
> > single-use token to your mobile phone.  This solves the "something
> > you have + something you know" problem.  Yes, if someone robs you
> > AND somehow gets your password, you're stuffed.  But that's less
> > likely than being keylogged by crapware, which is really the
> > problem they're trying to solve.

Actually, if someone robs you and gets your password, you are
largely protected by the current EFT Code of Conduct. The Banking
Ombudsman has decided that robbery and trickery do not amount to
voluntary disclosure of your password.

> 
> NAB does the sms thingy as well

It certainly is an improvement over what they did before (nothing).
However, Bruce Schneier has argued that two factor authorisation is
already too late since the bad guys are moving to "man in the middle"
attacks.

My own view on all of this is that the banks can do whatever they want
so long as they wear the losses. They have an immense free resource in
customers' PCs. My objection is that having chosen to make use of this
free resource, the proposal before ASIC is an attempt to shift even the
hidden costs to the consumer.

Alan

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