On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 11:05:32AM +1000, david wrote:
> <example>
> Some years ago in NSW, children of Jehovah's Witnesses were denied blood  
> transfusions by their parents because of religious beliefs. The state  
> introduced legislation and stepped in to make such children wards of the  
> state if their lives were at risk.
>
> What right has the state to deny to a child eternity in the presence of  
> the Lord for the sake of a few years of earthly life?
> </example>

This is an easy one. There is absolutely no evidence that the JW's
notions about blood transfusions are in any way true, however there is
well established evidence that death will occur in certain situations
when a blood transfusion is refused. Children are not the property of
their parents, and it is not a parent's prerogative to put a child's life
at risk for their illogical and unevidenced beliefs. Young children are
not competent to make their own decision on such matters; therefore it
is the responsibility of the state in its role to protect the general
well-being of its citizens, to step in and protect the child from its
own parents.

This is established law. NSW baby Gloria Thomas died in agony from an easily
treated eczema condition as her parents treated her using homeopathy
against doctors' advice. Parents Thomas Sam and Manju Sam have been
jailed for manslaughter by gross criminal negligence.

In USA baby Alayna Wyland suffered an abnormal growth around her left
eye which the parents tried to treat with prayer - and nothing else.
The parents have now been convicted of felony criminal mistreatment.

There may be many ways in which AU is a nanny state; you chose a
particularly poor example to rest your case.

Nick.
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