Jake,THanks for the correction - it's good to learn. Enabling ErP features has killed WOL on any system I've seen, but that's clearly not every system available.
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On 22/10/2012 5:11 PM, Jake Anderson wrote:
Small correction, it doesn't *always* disable the "wake on" stuff.I have one with those bits that will wake on lan and wake on timer, pulls 1.2W from the wall when its "off" but i dont know how accurate my measuring widget is.On 22/10/12 14:50, Edwin Humphries wrote:Oops, sorry; I'll correct that! NetSense Computers logo Regards, Edwin Humphries Mobile: 0419 233 051View Edwin Humphries's profile on LinkedIn <http://au.linkedin.com/in/edwinhumphries>NetSense Computers 79 Barney St, Kiama, NSW, 2533 Phone/Fax: +61 (0)2 4233 2285 Web: http://www.netsensecomputers.com.au Like us on Find us on Tweet us onFacebook <http://www.facebook.com/netsensecomputers><http://www.facebook.com/netsensecomputers> LinkedIn <http://www.linkedin.com/company/1500222?trk=NUS_CMPY_FOL-pdctd> Twitter <https://twitter.com/#%21/earthcaretech>--This email is intended for the named addressee/s only and may contain confidential or privileged information. If you are not a named addressee please delete it and notify the sender.--"/At every moment he beholdeth a wondrous world, a new creation, and goeth from astonishment to astonishment, and is lost in awe at the works of the Lord of Oneness./" Baha'u'llah, The Seven Valleys "./.. humans are interesting. With all the wonders there are in the Universe, they invented boredom./" Terry Pratchet, Hogfather "/The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the source of all true art and all science. He to whom this emotion is a stranger, who can no longer pause to wonder and stand rapt in awe, is as good as dead: his eyes are closed./" Albert Einstein /"Stuff your eyes with wonder ... live as if you'd drop dead in ten seconds. See the world. It's more fantastic than any dream made or paid for in factories./" Ray BradburyOn 22/10/2012 2:29 PM, Marghanita da Cruz wrote:Thanks! Did you mean to send this just to me? I think others on the list would be interested... Marghanita Edwin Humphries wrote:That is true of almost all computers; desktops tend to draw around 15W when "off". That's because various components on the motherboard are kept alive (frequently, for example, the LAN port - some even have the LAN LED on when "off") and the start-up circuits have to be energise to allow the momentary-action push-button to turn the PC on.That's what the EU directive ErP/EuP is about: reducing what is the hardware (not software) standby power consumption. In ErP/EuP 1, it was specified as 1W, in ErP/EuP 2, 0.5W. But in order to achieve this, both the motherboard (and any expansion cards, presumably) and the power supply must be ErP/EuP compliant, and ErP/EuP features must be enabled in BIOS. 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If you are not a named addressee please delete it and notify the sender.--"/At every moment he beholdeth a wondrous world, a new creation, and goeth from astonishment to astonishment, and is lost in awe at the works of the Lord of Oneness./"     Baha'u'llah, The Seven Valleys "./.. humans are interesting. With all the wonders there are in the Universe, they invented boredom./"     Terry Pratchet, Hogfather "/The most beautiful thing we can experience is the mysterious. It is the source of all true art and all science. He to whom this emotion is a stranger, who can no longer pause to wonder and stand rapt in awe, is as good as dead: his eyes are closed./"     Albert Einstein /"Stuff your eyes with wonder ... live as if you'd drop dead in ten seconds. See the world. It's more fantastic than any dream made or paid for in factories./"     Ray BradburyOn 22/10/2012 9:36 AM, Marghanita da Cruz wrote:Marghanita da Cruz wrote:Jake Anderson wrote: <snip>I don't know who is saying desktop pc's are pulling 12W but I haven't seen a system that will pull that from the wall outside a laptop.<snip>On 18/10/12 20:51, Jeremy Visser wrote:On 18/10/12 10:58, David Lyon wrote:Makes me wonder how much I’m killing the planet with the 700W powerIn the last few days, I've been reading studies showing that average power consumption of a PC is about 12W. Which is not incredibly high.supply in my PC.Anecdotally (no calibration of the Meter): My AL511 Acer Monitor is pulling 7watt on standby and 22-24W in use. Router/USB 3G Dongle isn't registering.The Laptop running with battery, external keyboard and mouse, plugged intopower supply is pulling 14-19W.It is worth noting, that to maximise battery operation, a lot of research anddevelopment has gone into developing energy efficient laptops. I also buy the maximum RAM available, when I purchase any computer. Removing the Battery and running off mains power, the Netbook is drawing 17W, it spiked to 24W when the fan came on but returned to 17W (with fan still on, while I wrote this email).The power use rose to 19 W, with a spike to 24W, when I fired up firefox.When I opened up Open Office, it spiked to 24W then dropped back to 17,then back to 19W. Firing up GIMP it goes spiked at 22W.Opening a document in the PDF viewer - the energy use spiked to 26W, beforedropping back to 17WLoading ramin.com.au the power use is fluctuatint between 17-19W, forslug.org.au 17-22W. nsw.gov.au 19-24WWriting this email, with Firefox, GIMP, PDF viewer and Open office runningin background, fan came on and electricity use is fluctuating between 17-19W. Marghanitacuiously, when the laptop is shutdown, it still draws 7W!
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