It's the same stuff as nextnet well not exact same they came to show us a presentation *600$ per cpe and 50g's per sectorial ap* to cover our 27square mile island they told us to give full coverage we needed 10 repeaters and we would have bulletproof wireless NLOS access, there units just sit in the house plugged into Ethernet and your on no more mounting of antennas or anything just give the client the cpe and its off plus it had options for virtual isp's and shit like that but I didn't really need all that cause our islands too small as it is. It's a wonderful idea and then we figured out WHY it was so great at NLOS, they had some interesting technology to get beyond multipath problems on 5.8 (they were doing it for 2.4 also if we wanted I but we had to secure 3 PRIVATE 2.4 channels that we could lock down for our own use.. HAHA ye sure) but as I was saying it's a 2 WATT amp in the CPE and a 2 WATT amp on each AP... umm guys if we put 2 watt amps on our smartbridges with a 5db omni and a 20db sectorial with 2 watts of power.. wouldn't that basically cover the NLOS concept LOL. Just my 2 cents, but the beam stearing does seem interesting no where near as expensive as the nextnet stuff as for vivato there awesome units in theory I guess would love to have a few to test out, where are they selling them haven't seem any distro's with them, and the beamsteer company I wonder how there gonna license there circuitry.
Chris
-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Laura [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2003 7:54 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Can they really claim this is NLOS? Under what circumstances? I tried it in
new orleans and had problems 1 block away. They said it might have been the
construction of the buildings. I have seen smartbridges penetrate a wall or
two under ideal conditions. I still wouldnt consider that NLOS though.
Superior Wireless
New Orleans,La.
www.superior1.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Oliver Shaw" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2003 1:55 AM
Subject: Re: [smartBridges] bandstearing?
>
> Yes, vivato does steer the beam as well. They call it packet steer because
> they steer every packet toward the target CPE. In other words, the switch
> follow the exact location of each client and beam the signal only toward
> that client in a narrow 7% beamwidth. This makes the signal strong and cut
> down wasted rf energy. There is a second antenna just "listen" to the CPE
> and receive packets from that direction. There is one more antenna
> programmed to keep track of the locations of each client, the coordinates
> of each client is then send to the "transmit" and "receive" antennas to
> maximize range.
>
> The switch can be mounted outdoor and beam all the signals to customers
> inside buildings. All the customers need is a standard wireless card in
> their PCs. The list price I last heard is $9,000.00 for the indoor version
> and about $14,000.00 for the outdoor verson.
>
> The only way WISPs can bring wireless access to the masses is eliminate
> the need for externally mounted outdoor antenna on the customer side and
> the customer can use off the shelf wireless cards (about $50.00). Lets be
> honest, do you really expect the most customers pay hundreds os dollars to
> buy special CPEs and outdoor antennas? These stuff will work in small
> scale in rural regions where adsl and cable internet service is not
> available.
>
> I love SB equipment and I wish SB can focus on research and manufacture
> NLOS wireless products. There is a huge market waiting for these. A good
> place for SB to start is WIMAX compliance products.
>
>
> Oliver
>
>
> On Fri, 30 May 2003, Marlon Schafer (509-982-2181) wrote:
>
> > Vivato does NOT beam steer!!!!!
> >
> > They packet steer. Big huge difference.
> >
> > marlon
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Oliver Shaw" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Friday, May 30, 2003 6:21 PM
> > Subject: Re: [smartBridges] bandstearing?
> >
> >
> > > Hi Chris,
> > >
> > > Beam steering is just one of technique used by some to focus the
signal in
> > > certain specific way to improve range. These wifi switch act as the
normal
> > > base station or access point as we know of. On the customer end they
still
> > > use the standard wifi (802.11b) cards.
> > >
> > > The other company using similar antenna technique is vivato.net. The
> > > advantage these switches is the extended range of coverage. They can
cover
> > > 2 to 3 miles NLOS.
> > >
> > > Oliver
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Fri, 30 May 2003, phantam wrote:
> > >
> > > > :: Posted in wrong msg reply ::
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Is beam stearing still 802.11? It is right? Just heard that
bandspeed is
> > > > gonna be licensing there bandstearing chips out sounds intriguing.
While
> > im
> > > > on the subject are there any wifi switches that aren't bound to 1
access
> > > > point? Too bad I haven't found one that works for SB's LOL
> > > >
> > > > Chris
> > > >
> >
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