I understand Navini's products work in the licensed and unlicensed 2.4Ghz
band. But the CPE is $400.00 each, if you want a battery pack for the CPE
that is another $100.00 extra.

I don't think I can convince enough customers to pay that much for CPE to
buy the base station at vber $60,000.00 each.

Like I said in the past, low cost CPE is the only way to compete with ADSL
and cable.

Oliver



On Mon, 2 Jun 2003, Scott Wells wrote:

> RE: [smartBridges] bandstearing?Bruce is the marketing director.  Othal
> Brand Jr. is in charge of it all.  Yes it is Navini and yes it is licensed.
> That is why it is so expensive but man it works!  I could download at T1
> speeds no problem almost 6 miles away in my apartment.  Navini really worked
> hard on it but beat out many competitors.  I really hope they continue to do
> well so that we can show the Bells the power of wireless.
> 
> -Scott
>   -----Original Message-----
>   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Joe Laura
>   Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2003 10:56 PM
>   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>   Subject: Re: [smartBridges] bandstearing?
> 
> 
>   Scott, If I am not mistaken wasn't that Navini 2.7 that Bruce used over
> there? Licensed frequency I believe. I am told it works great as well. I
> wish I had the money to deploy it.
>   Superior Wireless
>   New Orleans,La.
>   www.superior1.com
>     ----- Original Message -----
>     From: Scott Wells
>     To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>     Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2003 9:03 PM
>     Subject: RE: [smartBridges] bandstearing?
> 
> 
>     I worked on a system in McAllen, Texas.  Check out
> www.rioplexwireless.com  NLOS worked like a charm up to 8km.
> Expensive............
> 
>     -Scott
>       -----Original Message-----
>       From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of phantam
>       Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2003 11:00 AM
>       To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
>       Subject: RE: [smartBridges] bandstearing?
> 
> 
>       It's the same stuff as nextnet well not exact same they came to show
> us a presentation *600$ per cpe and 50g's per sectorial ap* to cover our
> 27square mile island they told us to give full coverage we needed 10
> repeaters and we would have bulletproof wireless NLOS access, there units
> just sit in the house plugged into Ethernet and your on no more mounting of
> antennas or anything just give the client the cpe and its off plus it had
> options for virtual isp's and shit like that but I didn't really need all
> that cause our islands too small as it is. It's a wonderful idea and then we
> figured out WHY it was so great at NLOS, they had some interesting
> technology to get beyond multipath problems on 5.8 (they were doing it for
> 2.4 also if we wanted I but we had to secure 3 PRIVATE 2.4 channels that we
> could lock down for our own use.. HAHA ye sure) but as I was saying it's a 2
> WATT amp in the CPE and a 2 WATT amp on each AP... umm guys if we put 2 watt
> amps on our smartbridges with a 5db omni and a 20db sectorial with 2 watts
> of power.. wouldn't that basically cover the NLOS concept LOL. Just my 2
> cents, but the beam stearing does seem interesting no where near as
> expensive as the nextnet stuff as for vivato there awesome units in theory I
> guess would love to have a few to test out, where are they selling them
> haven't seem any distro's with them, and the beamsteer company I wonder how
> there gonna license there circuitry.
> 
>       Chris
> 
>       -----Original Message-----
>       From: Joe Laura [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>       Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2003 7:54 AM
>       To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
>       Can they really claim this is NLOS? Under what circumstances? I tried
> it in
>       new orleans and had problems 1 block away. They said it might have
> been the
>       construction of the buildings. I have seen smartbridges penetrate a
> wall or
>       two under ideal conditions. I still wouldnt consider that NLOS though.
>       Superior Wireless
>       New Orleans,La.
>       www.superior1.com
>       ----- Original Message -----
>       From: "Oliver Shaw" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>       To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>       Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2003 1:55 AM
>       Subject: Re: [smartBridges] bandstearing?
> 
> 
> 
>       >
>       > Yes, vivato does steer the beam as well. They call it packet steer
> because
>       > they steer every packet toward the target CPE. In other words, the
> switch
>       > follow the exact location of each client and beam the signal only
> toward
>       > that client in a narrow 7% beamwidth. This makes the signal strong
> and cut
>       > down wasted rf energy. There is a second antenna just "listen" to
> the CPE
>       > and receive packets from that direction. There is one more antenna
>       > programmed to keep track of the locations of each client, the
> coordinates
>       > of each client is then send to the "transmit" and "receive" antennas
> to
>       > maximize range.
>       >
>       > The switch can be mounted outdoor and beam all the signals to
> customers
>       > inside buildings. All the customers need is a standard wireless card
> in
>       > their PCs. The list price I last heard is $9,000.00 for the indoor
> version
>       > and about $14,000.00 for the outdoor verson.
>       >
>       > The only way WISPs can bring wireless access to the masses is
> eliminate
>       > the need for externally mounted outdoor antenna on the customer side
> and
>       > the customer can use off the shelf wireless cards (about $50.00).
> Lets be
>       > honest, do you really expect the most customers pay hundreds os
> dollars to
>       > buy special CPEs and outdoor antennas? These stuff will work in
> small
>       > scale in rural regions where adsl and cable internet service is not
>       > available.
>       >
>       > I love SB equipment and I wish SB can focus on research and
> manufacture
>       > NLOS wireless products. There is a huge market waiting for these. A
> good
>       > place for SB to start is WIMAX compliance products.
>       >
>       >
>       > Oliver
>       >
>       >
>       > On Fri, 30 May 2003, Marlon Schafer (509-982-2181) wrote:
>       >
>       > > Vivato does NOT beam steer!!!!!
>       > >
>       > > They packet steer.  Big huge difference.
>       > >
>       > > marlon
>       > >
>       > > ----- Original Message -----
>       > > From: "Oliver Shaw" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>       > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>       > > Sent: Friday, May 30, 2003 6:21 PM
>       > > Subject: Re: [smartBridges] bandstearing?
>       > >
>       > >
>       > > > Hi Chris,
>       > > >
>       > > > Beam steering is just one of technique used by some to focus the
>       signal in
>       > > > certain specific way to improve range. These wifi switch act as
> the
>       normal
>       > > > base station or access point as we know of. On the customer end
> they
>       still
>       > > > use the standard wifi (802.11b) cards.
>       > > >
>       > > > The other company using similar antenna technique is vivato.net.
> The
>       > > > advantage these switches is the extended range of coverage. They
> can
>       cover
>       > > > 2 to 3 miles NLOS.
>       > > >
>       > > > Oliver
>       > > >
>       > > >
>       > > >
>       > > > On Fri, 30 May 2003, phantam wrote:
>       > > >
>       > > > > :: Posted in wrong msg reply ::
>       > > > >
>       > > > >
>       > > > >
>       > > > > Is beam stearing still 802.11? It is right? Just heard that
>       bandspeed is
>       > > > > gonna be licensing there bandstearing chips out sounds
> intriguing.
>       While
>       > > im
>       > > > > on the subject are there any wifi switches that aren't bound
> to 1
>       access
>       > > > > point? Too bad I haven't found one that works for SB's LOL
>       > > > >
>       > > > > Chris
>       > > > >
>       > >
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