HAHAH thats one way of putting it hahaha

Quoting Nish Park <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> You are correct. In Bridge mode there is no protocol handshake so you
> get the maximum throughput. 
> 
> The downside is that because there is no handshake, there is no
> information available for monitoring and management. The radios
> basically just blast the data over the air, with the assumption that the
> other side will catch it.
> 
> Nish
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Martin Moreno
> Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2003 1:27 PM
> To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> Subject: Re: [smartBridges] beta firmware for aPP series
> 
> I do have one link for a remote access point set up that way and it
> seems to 
> work fine but I think bridge to bridge mode is more efficient and the
> radios 
> are always talking so there is no wait for other radios or any real
> delays etc 
> 
> Someone correct me if I am wrong..
> 
> 
> Quoting Roger Hartley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> 
> > I tried at first to set up a backhaul using aBOs. The advice I got
> when 
> > it didn't work was use one aPPO in access point mode, another in 
> > client/bridge. I did and it has worked fine since then.
> > 
> > Martin Moreno wrote:
> > 
> > > Roger, 
> > > 
> > > I think he is trying to setthem both into "bridge mode" as a point
> to point
> > for 
> > > a backhaul I tried this once about a couple months ago and I too had
> > problems 
> > > and could not figure it out I ended up using Motorola canopy for my
> > backhaul 
> > > instead.
> > > When he tries it in AP client bridge mode it works fine but will not
> work
> > in 
> > > the bridge to bridge mode like it is supposed to. 
> > > 
> > > Quoting Roger Hartley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > > 
> > > 
> > >>You say you set them up as the aPPO in access point mode, the other
> in 
> > >>client/bridge, then you change them. When you change them, it
> doesn't 
> > >>work afer a while. Why are you changing them? It should be aPPO in 
> > >>access point mode -> aPPO in client bridge mode. Or am I missing 
> > >>something simple here?
> > >>
> > >>Boris Tillett wrote:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>>Thank you for the beta release it was a life saver.  We were in the
> > >>>middle of 2 deploys each with approximately 40 aPPOs.  We had
> multiple
> > >>>units (about 20% or more) that were exhibiting the symptoms
> described in
> > >>>your customer advisory.  Since the units were mixed in with the
> working
> > >>>units and we could not be sure which ones were in need of the fix.
> We
> > >>>upgraded all 80+ units with the new beta firmware (1.4j.8) release.
> It
> > >>>did not make sense to stand around in the hot sun rebooting them
> hoping,
> > >>>the ones that needed the fix would fail, and all that did not fail
> on
> > >>>rebooting could then be considered good, and hence be reliable for
> our
> > >>>grand opening of these networks. Anyway all 80+ upgrades went off
> > >>>without a hitch.  The units that were obviously bad started working
> > >>>reliably (only been able to test for a few days) and the ones that
> > >>>seemed to be working fine continued to work fine. 
> > >>>
> > >>>------
> > >>>Again, I ask if anyone has any ideas why the point to point
> connections
> > >>>I try with the aPPOs fail with in days or sometimes hours.  The
> units
> > >>>are not more then 500 feet apart, and they each have a new maxrad
> yagi
> > >>>pointing at their partner.  The settings were correct or the link
> would
> > >>>not have worked at all.  When I set the upstream unit to AP mode
> and the
> > >>>down stream unit to act as a client bridge the connection signal
> > >>>strength (~100%) could not have been better.  But when I set them
> back
> > >>>to Point to Point, wireless bridge mode, the link fails with in
> hours.
> > >>>By fails I mean one side stops transmitting packets to the other
> side. I
> > >>>could initiate a successful ping only from the upstream side. This
> would
> > >>>alternate with complete failure, where I could not ping the units
> or
> > >>>through them to the units behind them in either direction. Because
> the
> > >>>units (in Wireless Bridge mode) work for a while (until they get
> hot), I
> > >>>tried the new firmware on them as well.  It did not help. I have
> been
> > >>>trying to get my system administrator, who is in charge of lab
> testing
> > >>>our new equipment to set one of these links up in the lab, but he
> never
> > >>>seems to have the time.  This is the third time I have tried this
> and
> > >>>after a full day of frustration in the field, have resorted to
> other
> > >>>equipment for the point to point connection.  I do not need another
> > >>>e-mail from support asking what my setting were, if there are any
> > >>>setting that would work for a while and then fail please tell me.
> If
> > >>>there is a phone number for support, so we could talk while I was
> out in
> > >>>the field with the point to point failed units and try your
> suggestion
> > >>>please send it to me.  The setting for this procedure, seem obvious
> in
> > >>>the documentation, and do not seem to be the problem.  Any
> suggestion
> > >>>would be appreciated.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>Thank you,
> > >>> 
> > >>>Boris Tillett
> > >>>Capitol Broadband
> > >>>(919) 674-0036
> > >>> 
> > >>>
> > >>>-----Original Message-----
> > >>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >>>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Blazen
> Wireless
> > >>>Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2003 2:45 AM
> > >>>To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> > >>>Subject: Re: [smartBridges] beta firmware for aPP series 
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>Is that for the APPO or the ABO stuff?
> > >>>
> > >>>----- Original Message ----- 
> > >>>From: "sB Tech Support" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >>>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >>>Sent: Friday, July 25, 2003 10:04 AM
> > >>>Subject: RE: [smartBridges] beta firmware for aPP series
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>Currently the firmware is for beta testing. And we are gathering
> > >>>feedback from users who are testing it on the field. So far we have
> > >>>identified a minor bug (When device in DHCP client, the Gateway is
> > >>>0.0.0.0 if DHCP server is not present). So please be aware that you
> may
> > >>>require upgrading again after the final version is released.
> > >>>
> > >>>Alex
> > >>>sB Tech Support
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>-----Original Message-----
> > >>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >>>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Banes
> > >>>Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2003 12:38 AM
> > >>>To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> > >>>Subject: Re: [smartBridges] beta firmware for aPP series
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>Is this a temporary beta fix or is this an actual real release?
> > >>>
> > >>>John
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>>Hi All,
> > >>>>
> > >>>>For all users having airPointPRO series units and which display
> the 
> > >>>>symptoms described in the customer advisory we have a firmware
> version
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>>1.4j.8. For those in need of it please read through carefully the 
> > >>>>information given in the below link 
> > >>>>http://www.smartbridges.com/new/support/beta.php.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>With Best Regards,
> > >>>>
> > >>>>Vasu
> > >>>>(sB Support Team)
> > >>
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> > > 
> > > Martin Moreno
> > > Blazen Wireless
> > > 909-907-4106
> > > www.blazenwireless.com
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