Blacklist servers are so useless. Why does anyone still use them. There have been times that those blacklists have inaccurately listed us because our server responded at all to an attempt at a relay, (access denied response), and they listed us. All of a sudden, a bunch of customers of our customers aren't able to receive e-mail from us. Funny how it takes only a few minutes to get a server listed, but it can take weeks, sometimes months to get un-listed.
That whole concept is total BS. Kevin Summers KISTech Internet Services Inc. www.kistech.com -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Gloria Vester Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2003 5:37 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [smartBridges] for Dennis Dennis, I have been trying to send you info, but it keeps getting refused. I did some research, and apparently my server has been blocked as being an open relay. My server is NOT an open relay, I fixed that years ago, but this site (http://www.njabl.org/ ) says it is and has me blocked. I have requested them to remove my server from their list, but in the mean time I can't send you mail. I just wanted you to know I wasn't ignoring your messages. Thanks, Gloria ----- Original Message ----- From: Dennis Burgess To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2003 1:26 AM Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Towers I understand everyone point. I'm new to the WISP business, not to PtP links or wireless in general, but just the WISP portion. Now, you give me a 2000 or 2003 server, CIsco router, VPN, IPsec question. I will be all over it. So, for those who have answered my tower questions, thanks a bunch. Your questions was insightful as well as imforative. I was hoping to get some more info on who you guys contacted to get space on watertowers. Think I have one every 10 miles here! I called the Water District and they say its a public works, thing and vise versa. My e-mail is [EMAIL PROTECTED] if someone would like to help out. And for those who, don't want anything but smartbridge tech talk, I understand and apologize for the incovience. But if you do have a question, IP config, routers, VPN stuff like that, let me know. I get over 500 bucks month for a 1meg IPsec connection, plus the 150 a month of 512k of internet at two locations :) so, IPsec is a good business! heehe la8ers Dennis ----- Original Message ----- From: John Hokenson To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2003 10:03 PM Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Towers I have to side with Marlon....you get too much off topic stuff going and Smartbridges will stop listing to the list and you have lost your factory tech support on the list. USe the other lists. JH ----- Original Message ----- From: Joe Email To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2003 6:12 PM Subject: RE: [smartBridges] Towers Marlon I'm not trying to argue, but I respectfully disagree I still say if you are using sB radios and anything that concerns them are relevant, ie towers, servers, routers, backhauls, battery backup, solar power, antennas, etc. Why should you have to monitor several sites if you are using sB radios, this one is hard enough to keep with Don't take this the wrong way, I may need your advice sometime My observation Joe K -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Marlon Schafer (509-982-2181) Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2003 7:01 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Towers righto. But this particular list is there for support of the RADIO's not everything else. There are 2 other good email lists and a web based forum designed for generic questions. That help? marlon ----- Original Message ----- From: Joe Email To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2003 4:14 PM Subject: RE: [smartBridges] Towers OK Marlon I've seen this happen more than once on this site For some reason or another someone only wants to talk about the subject they want to talk about I would think if you are a smartBridges user and you were using them on a tower and you wanted to ask about a tower or anything concerning these radios you should be able to post a question Some of us may not be as learned as others Why not ask questions to the people using the same radios as you are My observations Joe K -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Marlon Schafer (509-982-2181) Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2003 6:06 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Towers btw guys, i didn't notice what list this is on. These generic questions really belong on the [EMAIL PROTECTED] list rather than the TT tech support one. thanks marlon ----- Original Message ----- From: John Hokenson To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2003 11:26 AM Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Towers $2500 is not expensive compared to spending $500 a month to be on someone else's towe. JH ----- Original Message ----- From: Dennis Burgess To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2003 11:11 AM Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Towers Ouch. Thats what I have been finding out. Much simpler and cheaper to run off other towers unless you have the cash to outlay :( Any other suggestions? Dennis ----- Original Message ----- From: Gloria Vester To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2003 1:00 PM Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Towers We built our own tower and it was rather inexpensive. I have a friend who was in the two way radio business for 40 years and built lots of towers, so he was very helpful. We bought the 100' steel tower (Rohn 25G) from Hutton (www.huttononline.com), picked it up locally, for less than $1k. We used friends / relatives for labor (free) so the only additional cost was the concrete, rebar, guy wires, and miscellaneous hardware. It was not that difficult to build, took us about 4 days, mainly due to the over 100 degree heat. Total investment was less than $2.5k. If you need any help with how to build one, what parts to buy, want to see pictures of ours going up, etc., just email me offline ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) and I will be happy to help. Gloria ----- Original Message ----- From: Dennis Burgess To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2003 12:50 PM Subject: [smartBridges] Towers I was wonder what everyone is doing for towers? I have high trees in my area, 70 foot high in some cases. I'm running off a radio station tower now, but what other options are there? I have found a 100 foot telescoping tower for like $3,200 bucks, but you need a crane and a big ass crew just to get the thing up, not to mention the guy wires. Anyone have any suggestions? Dennis The PART-15.ORG smartBridges Discussion List To Join: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type subscribe smartBridges <yournickname> To Remove: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (in the body type unsubscribe smartBridges) Archives: http://archives.part-15.org
