Eje what was the "overriding"
you were talking about what would an example be.
Chris
From: Chris Chance
Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2003 1:54
AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
WICKED
I'm going to order few and see how they work would be awesome solution to
old problem. Does hotspot work in the demo of microtik so I can test that as
well (it's the cheaper alternative if I cant get the 1100$ from my finance
department for the pppoe router solution... do they freeze? I used to have
problems with some linksys's freezing and stuff like that, I cant afford
another problem for my clients having to reset radios before adding a router to
reset it too much to ask of them.
Chris
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From: Eje Gustafsson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2003 12:47
AM
To: Kevin Summers
I seen
single port routers capable of pppoe that been sold for as
little as 6.95 (tigerdirect.com -
efficient (siemens) routers).
Yes
Mikrotik can do pptp however it is not dynamic you have to create
a pptp interface for each client
and it do not support radius which
are two things that are very strong
things speaking for pppoe. You
know one thing that is kind of
funny years back when I looked at doing
dsl I did NOT want to do pppoe. If
you had asked me I would have said
it plainly sucked bulky messy and I
would give you every possible
excuse not to use it. Today I would
never dream about running a
802.11b network without it [pppoe]
or some sort of hotspot
authentication. Why ? Because
802.11b is to easy to hack into and gain
access to and the ONLY way to
securely protect you is pppoe or second
best hotspot.
Best
regards,
Eje
Gustafsson
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KS> RE: [smartBridges] Microtik
- EjeIf they are Windows clients, use PPTP for
KS> authentication. The same
KS> features are available for
bandwidth limiting, and anything that is
KS> Windows 98SE or newer has
PPTP support built in. It only works for
KS> single users, but if that is
what you have, then you are set. For those
KS> that are multiple machines
behind a CPE you can get the router and
KS> spend the $9.99 on them.
KS>
The "redirect page" feature I think you are referring to is the
HotSpot
KS> feature. It works very slick
and doesn't require any configuration on
KS> the client machine. It also
works with multiple clients behind a CPE.
KS> Kevin Summers
KS> KISTech Internet Services
Inc.
KS> www.kistech.com
KS>
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KS> From:
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KS> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
Behalf Of Chris Chance
KS> Sent: Saturday,
August 16, 2003 8:05 AM
KS> To:
'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
KS> Subject: RE:
[smartBridges] Microtik - Eje
KS>
I know really it's a matter of cost the PPPoE solution is thebest along
KS> with using routers at the
clients but so far cheapest I have found is 9.99
KS> sounds great but its 49.99
with a 40 dollar mail in rebate that's not a
KS> possibility considering my
bank account doesn't come close to covering the
KS> 150 clients that would need
the routers rolling trucks isn't even the
KS> problem cause I could get my
friends to do it with me. How do I set the
KS> queue tree for port's? for
the overrides I couldn't find this? Can you give
KS> me a basic setup for what I
would have to do from a bare 2.7.8 microtik box
KS> to get 1 client up at
512/128 with pop and smtp overridden to do unlimited
KS> along with the ARP
authorization. I would really appreciate it eje, things
KS> might just be promising then
even though I can't get the redirection page to
KS> work that's one feature I
wish the microtik had then I could really pump it
KS> are they taking any
recommendations ? I mean the webserver is already
KS> implemented on the box so it
shouldn't be that hard.
KS>
Chris
KS>
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KS> From: Eje
Gustafsson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
KS> Sent: Friday,
August 15, 2003 12:18 AM
KS> To: Chris Chance
KS>
Currently you can only set a upload limit based on mac address.
KS> If you create
static arp entries then they will not be able to pass
KS> any traffic even
if they change ips.
KS>
Sounds like from what you want to do you need to setup a queue tree as
KS> well create some
override rules that would allow higher speed on pop3
KS> and smtp.
KS>
If you set the interface to arp reply-only then a unauthorized user
KS> will not be able
to pass any traffic. There is no redirect page but
KS> then they will
not be able to pass any traffic either (which should be
KS> a good hint).
KS>
If you really want a secure network you should use pppoe then you can
KS> have all
automated for you and don't need to worry about users
KS> changing ips or
unathorized users. PPPoE is your friend.
KS>
Best regards,
KS> Eje
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KS> CC> Eje I'm
really considering the microtik for our client bandwidth
KS> management
KS> CC> until the
nexus come out but I have a problem... I got basic queues to
KS> work
KS> CC> by IP
although this isn't what we wanted.. We wanted by mac address
KS> CC> bandwidth
management I mean people can change ips or spoof ip's easier
KS> than
KS> CC> mac's,
and also we wanted to be able to do more in depth filtering of
KS> the
KS> CC> bandwidth
for a client like 512/128 for everything except smtp and
KS> pop3
KS> CC> which
would be unlimited. But this isn't available? Also What happened
KS> to
KS> CC> what I
heard about authorization redirection Mainly showing users that
KS> CC> aren't
mac allowed a webpage that states there invalid users or are
KS> pirating
KS> CC> and
should desist or call the office.
KS>
CC> Chris
KS>
PS>> Eje any help would be much appreciated or anyone using microtik
KS>
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