Yes but how do u prioritize or set rules for PORTS I don't see that or mac addresses only for ip prioritization / limiting as a note the 1100$ is not the router I mean I cud use the micro router from you or build a microtik for cheaper than that LOL or just use 2k3 or any other solution mainly the microrouter.... the 1100$ is for the amount of radios I would require at 6.99 to redo my entire clientbase with routers. (Which at same time I would probably want to switch out my old tele and lucent clients to sb's to get my network standardized most likely by time I could role this out my new big pop will be done and also Airpoint XO 1 and 2 will be out so I can get the network blinging.)
More info on the use of queues if possible eje, can you email me off forum so we don't tie up sb's forum
Chris
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From: Eje Gustafsson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2003 2:47 AM
To: Chris Chance
The bandwidth queues are processed in sequence when there is a hit it
will not go further down in the list. So the things you want
prioritize would be set higher in the list.
Best regards,
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CC> Eje what was the "overriding" you were talking about what would an example
CC> be.
CC> Chris
CC> _____
CC> From: Chris Chance
CC> Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2003 1:54 AM
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CC> WICKED I'm going to order few and see how they work would be awesome
CC> solution to old problem. Does hotspot work in the demo of microtik so I can
CC> test that as well (it's the cheaper alternative if I cant get the 1100$ from
CC> my finance department for the pppoe router solution... do they freeze? I
CC> used to have problems with some linksys's freezing and stuff like that, I
CC> cant afford another problem for my clients having to reset radios before
CC> adding a router to reset it too much to ask of them.
CC> Chris
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CC> From: Eje Gustafsson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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CC> Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2003 12:47 AM
CC> To: Kevin Summers
CC> I seen single port routers capable of pppoe that been sold for as
CC> little as 6.95 (tigerdirect.com - efficient (siemens) routers).
CC> Yes Mikrotik can do pptp however it is not dynamic you have to create
CC> a pptp interface for each client and it do not support radius which
CC> are two things that are very strong things speaking for pppoe. You
CC> know one thing that is kind of funny years back when I looked at doing
CC> dsl I did NOT want to do pppoe. If you had asked me I would have said
CC> it plainly sucked bulky messy and I would give you every possible
CC> excuse not to use it. Today I would never dream about running a
CC> 802.11b network without it [pppoe] or some sort of hotspot
CC> authentication. Why ? Because 802.11b is to easy to hack into and gain
CC> access to and the ONLY way to securely protect you is pppoe or second
CC> best hotspot.
CC> Best regards,
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KS>> RE: [smartBridges] Microtik - EjeIf they are Windows clients, use PPTP
CC> for
KS>> authentication. The same
KS>> features are available for bandwidth limiting, and anything that is
KS>> Windows 98SE or newer has PPTP support built in. It only works for
KS>> single users, but if that is what you have, then you are set. For those
KS>> that are multiple machines behind a CPE you can get the router and
KS>> spend the $9.99 on them.
KS>> The "redirect page" feature I think you are referring to is the HotSpot
KS>> feature. It works very slick and doesn't require any configuration on
KS>> the client machine. It also works with multiple clients behind a CPE.
KS>> Kevin Summers
KS>> KISTech Internet Services Inc.
KS>> www.kistech.com
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KS>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
KS>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
CC> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]On Behalf Of Chris Chance
KS>> Sent: Saturday, August 16, 2003 8:05 AM
KS>> To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
KS>> Subject: RE: [smartBridges] Microtik - Eje
KS>> I know really it's a matter of cost the PPPoE solution is thebest
CC> along
KS>> with using routers at the clients but so far cheapest I have found is
CC> 9.99
KS>> sounds great but its 49.99 with a 40 dollar mail in rebate that's not a
KS>> possibility considering my bank account doesn't come close to covering
CC> the
KS>> 150 clients that would need the routers rolling trucks isn't even the
KS>> problem cause I could get my friends to do it with me. How do I set the
KS>> queue tree for port's? for the overrides I couldn't find this? Can you
CC> give
KS>> me a basic setup for what I would have to do from a bare 2.7.8 microtik
CC> box
KS>> to get 1 client up at 512/128 with pop and smtp overridden to do
CC> unlimited
KS>> along with the ARP authorization. I would really appreciate it eje,
CC> things
KS>> might just be promising then even though I can't get the redirection
CC> page to
KS>> work that's one feature I wish the microtik had then I could really pump
CC> it
KS>> are they taking any recommendations ? I mean the webserver is already
KS>> implemented on the box so it shouldn't be that hard.
KS>> Chris
KS>> -----Original Message-----
KS>> From: Eje Gustafsson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
CC> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
KS>> Sent: Friday, August 15, 2003 12:18 AM
KS>> To: Chris Chance
KS>> Currently you can only set a upload limit based on mac address.
KS>> If you create static arp entries then they will not be able to pass
KS>> any traffic even if they change ips.
KS>> Sounds like from what you want to do you need to setup a queue tree as
KS>> well create some override rules that would allow higher speed on pop3
KS>> and smtp.
KS>> If you set the interface to arp reply-only then a unauthorized user
KS>> will not be able to pass any traffic. There is no redirect page but
KS>> then they will not be able to pass any traffic either (which should be
KS>> a good hint).
KS>> If you really want a secure network you should use pppoe then you can
KS>> have all automated for you and don't need to worry about users
KS>> changing ips or unathorized users. PPPoE is your friend.
KS>> Best regards,
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KS>> CC> Eje I'm really considering the microtik for our client bandwidth
KS>> management
KS>> CC> until the nexus come out but I have a problem... I got basic
CC> queues to
KS>> work
KS>> CC> by IP although this isn't what we wanted.. We wanted by mac
CC> address
KS>> CC> bandwidth management I mean people can change ips or spoof ip's
CC> easier
KS>> than
KS>> CC> mac's, and also we wanted to be able to do more in depth filtering
CC> of
KS>> the
KS>> CC> bandwidth for a client like 512/128 for everything except smtp and
KS>> pop3
KS>> CC> which would be unlimited. But this isn't available? Also What
CC> happened
KS>> to
KS>> CC> what I heard about authorization redirection Mainly showing users
CC> that
KS>> CC> aren't mac allowed a webpage that states there invalid users or
CC> are
KS>> pirating
KS>> CC> and should desist or call the office.
KS>> CC> Chris
KS>> PS>> Eje any help would be much appreciated or anyone using microtik
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