Down boy ;-)

I've not tried the tt units.  We've still got a billing dispute running with
them and they won't ship me one of the quick bridges.  I've known about them
and asked for a test unit since before they were generally released.

Don't know about Tranzeo.  I wrote them off long ago, much for the same
issues as I recall.  And I've never heard anything good about the support.
Never seen their guys on any of the lists like SB.

And I'll bitch about Proxim.  Tried to find drivers on their pos web site
lately???  Sheesh.

Am I loyal to SB?  You bet.  I've always been loyal to my
vendors/manufacturers.  I expect that out of my CUSTOMERS too.  I don't
expect them to jump ship at the first sign of trouble after things have been
so good for so long.  I know what it's like to have strange problems.  It
takes a while to find them sometimes.  But they usually get found.

Rest assured that I'm looking around for a better mouse trap.  I always am.
We ordered a couple more wet 11's the other day (I'm NOT a linksys fan but
need an option for some customers other than sb).  And I'll get one of the
quickbridges too.

marlon

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "George" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2003 10:10 AM
Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Brand New APPO's!


> It would be different if it was the lowest price solution and we knew
> they didn't work well.
> But it's not the lowest price solution and others at the same price or
> lower are working well.
> You buddies over their at Teletronics have a lower priced unit that
> seems to be working flawlessly. Tranzeo has a lower priced unit that is
> working flawlessly.
> Proxim has a lower priced unit that we don't hear anyone bitching about.
> And there is more.
>
> It's funny how one goes from the advocate for the wisp to the advocate
> of the vendor.
> George
>
>
> Marlon Schafer (509-982-2181) wrote:
>
> > It's an amazing thing isn't it. We buy very nice devices at below
> > market rates and then have the guts to get made when they don't
> > perform better than anything else we've ever run! lol
> > If only we didn't have to compete against cable and dsl companies that
> > have the money to buy customers....
> > marlon
> >
> >     ----- Original Message -----
> >     *From:* The Wirefree Network <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >     *To:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >     *Sent:* Friday, August 22, 2003 8:39 PM
> >     *Subject:* RE: [smartBridges] Brand New APPO's!
> >
> >     Of course they work out of the box. The firmware upgrade was not
> >     to enable the device. It was to correct the “timing” issue which
> >     was causing disassociation (heat related). So…it will work out of
> >     the box. It just may crash soon after….that is why the sticker
> >     says upgrade.
> >
> >     With that said, I had the same problems with my units. They
> >     initially started flashing all the lights. Wooohoo…all my clients
> >     are coming online. Within 5 minutes, the blue light stopped and
> >     soon there after the LAN side locked up as well. Bad units….RMA
them.
> >
> >     But hey…I am not on sB’s payroll…and I don’t approve the RMA’s…so
> >     don’t listen to me. I have just spent enough time playing with
> >     these units. Prior to June…you plugged them in and they just
> >     worked. BAMMM!
> >
> >     Sully
> >
> >     -----Original Message-----
> >     *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >     [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Shawn
Mitchell
> >     *Sent:* Friday, August 22, 2003 8:16 PM
> >     *To:* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >     *Subject:* RE: [smartBridges] Brand New APPO's!
> >
> >     Nish,
> >
> >     My point is that they would work out of the box WITH OUT upgrading
> >     them. The units both had blue flashing lights, but one of them
> >     didn't after they had been running sitting in the sun for several
> >     hours.
> >
> >     Yes, the Ethernet was working great.. I was connected to it via
> >     simpleMonitor watching the RF (wireless) counters... all sitting
> >     at 0... I'm trying to tell you that you have have solved some of
> >     the heat issues, but not all of them. Your still sending out bad
> >     units and telling people to put a bandaid on them. Intel tried the
> >     same thing with their old Pentium 60Mhz CPU's years back, and in
> >     the end they switched them out with good ones.
> >
> >         -----Original Message-----
> >         *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >         [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of *Nish Park
> >         *Sent:* Friday, August 22, 2003 21:54
> >         *To:* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >         *Subject:* RE: [smartBridges] Brand New APPO's!
> >
> >         Shawn,
> >
> >         I read the email a few times and watched the movie also. I am
> >         not sure what point you are trying to make. As the label says,
> >         you need to upgrade the F/W before it will work properly.
> >         There are no units with “bad” chips in them. The thermal issue
> >         can be solved by either the new hardware or the new firmware.
> >
> >         (ps. After the firmware upgrade you may want to associate a
> >         client to check the operation. In the movie it looks like you
> >         may have a unit with bad Blue LED. Ethernet LED is flashing as
> >         per normal so it looks like the units is working ok but for
> >         some reason the Blue LED may have come off the solder joint).
> >
> >         Nish
> >
> >         -----Original Message-----
> >         *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >         [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Shawn
> >         Mitchell
> >         *Sent:* Saturday, August 23, 2003 9:20 AM
> >         *To:* '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> >         *Subject:* RE: [smartBridges] Brand New APPO's!
> >
> >         I'm resizing the images and stuff right now... I'll have them
> >         put up pretty soon, but you'll see my point exactly on what
> >         I've been dealing with over the last few months.
> >
> >             -----Original Message-----
> >             *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >             [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
> >             *Chris Chance
> >             *Sent:* Friday, August 22, 2003 18:38
> >             *To:* '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> >             *Subject:* RE: [smartBridges] Brand New APPO's!
> >
> >             How the hell... whats that bug u speak of sounds kinda
> >             funny since u said u passed traffic
> >
> >             -----Original Message-----
> >             From: Shawn Mitchell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >             Sent: Friday, August 22, 2003 7:05 PM
> >             To: smartBridges
> >
> >             And they have bad chips in them!
> >
> >             The white sticker on the box say's "Before these will work
> >             correctly, you
> >             must upgrade them"... So I think to myself, "Smartbridges
> >             said they pulled
> >             back all the ones they still had with bad chips, so these
> >             must not have any
> >             heat issues... right.." WRONG!
> >
> >             Here's a nice little 30 second movie:
> >             http://www.iodamedia.net/new-appo.avi
> >
> >             One on the bottom is running the .8 code, one on top is
> >             running the code it
> >             came with, .5
> >
> >             Now, they got deliverd at around 12:30pm CDT. I wasn't
> >             there, called them
> >             on the phone and told them to sit them outside in the sun,
> >             plugged in just
> >             for grins.
> >
> >             This day (yesterday) happen to be breaking record temps
> >             all over the place.
> >             It showed 102*F on the temp readout on my jeep. These
> >             units were warm, but
> >             not hot to the touch. "burnning" to the human touch is
> >             around 50*C (122*F).
> >             MUCH lower than what the units are rated at.
> >
> >             But anyway, you can very plainly see that on the bottom
> >             unit, it's working
> >             just as normal (RFtxrx light blinks), but on the top
> >             one... it's totaly off.
> >             DEAD...
> >
> >             well, I didn't replace the two AP's that I needed to
> >             replace still. I
> >             tested them today.. I'm going to put up the screen shots
> >             from it.. it's
> >             quite funny, and let's just say I found a few FW bugs in
> >             the airBridge, or
> >             else SB you make good enough of a radio that it connected
> >             to an AP 5 miles
> >             away, through/around a large hill, and through 20+
> >             multistory brick
> >             buildings (with a RSSI of -20 something and a LQ of 90%+
> >             and passing traffic
> >             for a while)
> >
>
>
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