If you think about it. The sppo's are not all that much money and you don't really need network connections to do this. All you need is power. and antennas.
Yeah maybe you can put like 2 or 3 ap's near his all with the same essid's
Annndddddd
Who cares if they work or not! hey a good place to use those malfunctioned ap's.
Maybe you can get Smart Bridges to send you a bunch of defective ones to 'play with'
:P
George




Gloria Vester wrote:
That's good....another evil plot to keep up my sleeve - thanks for all the
great ideas, guys.  Ya'll are great!

Gloria

----- Original Message ----- From: "George" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 9:16 PM
Subject: Re: [smartBridges] [good and bad] New aPPo from Singapore




Hey,
What I would do if I wanted to screw with him. Is set up more ap's with
the same essid as his and  see if his subs stay connected to him.
George

Gloria Vester wrote:

Yep, that would be them. They ran perfectly from Friday night when we

put


them up until last night when one of them locked up and had to be pinged

to


revive it. It could be just a fluke, or it could be the a**hole

competitor


that is trying everything in his power to put me out of business.

Gloria

----- Original Message ----- From: "Martin Moreno" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 10:24 AM
Subject: RE: [smartBridges] [good and bad] New aPPo from Singapore





are the new ones with the new chips the ones with the white powercoated

mounting



brackets?

Quoting The Wirefree Network <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:



Gloria,
Glad to hear that you are up and running smoothly.  I too am working
well with the new (Singapore acquired) units (aPPo's and aBi's).  Out

of


13 units I have replaced in the field, all but one have been flawless.
I started a continuous ping on that one to keep it up.  This one unit
has ever-so-slightly Non-LOS.  It has about a 88% RSSI and average LQ

of


88%.  However, if you look at my MRTG charts, you will see that the LQ
is actually swinging ALL OVER THE PLACE due to the NLOS.

I am planning on jumping up there on Friday to point it at the new
repeater location (if it has clean LOS).

Sully

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gloria Vester
Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 5:11 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [smartBridges] [good and bad] New aPPo from Singapore

I think in my case I can conclusively say it was a radio issue.  I had
four radios on the water tower, all installed at the same time the same
way, sharing the same UPS, etc.,  one of them hasn't failed once, the
other three all went down at least once a day - Ethernet port died and
the unit locked up solid.  Replaced one of them with a new unit from
distributor and it had the same problem.  Replaced the POE's and power
supplies, same thing.  Got new radios from Singapore and put them up
Friday night and they haven't gone down once.  So I think that pretty
well proves it was the radios.  I am sending all four of them back to
Singapore today so they can figure out what is wrong with them.

Gloria

----- Original Message ----- From: Tom Haynes <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, September 01, 2003 11:59 PM
Subject: RE: [smartBridges] [good and bad] New aPPo from Singapore


Set up a constant ping (windows = ping -t xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx). Most down
radios will come back up after several minutes of pings. Keep pininging
and the rasios should stay up. If they do go down, the should comeback
up in a few minutes. This is only a workaround to some other problem,
wether it is an install issue or a radio issue is not yet knows. SB

says


install issue in most cases and installers say radio issue. In either
cas SB will normally approve a an RMA if you feel it is a radio issue.

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Good
Sent: Monday, September 01, 2003 11:25 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [smartBridges] [good and bad] New aPPo from Singapore
Gloria,
       I have been gone for a while and have not read the 1000 of
messages I have.. Tell me about the pinging of the units (a history) I
have a few units that keep going down and would love to hear this
"pinging" session would help out for now.

Thanks,
Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Haynes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2003 11:20 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [smartBridges] [good and bad] New aPPo from Singapore

After a few weeks of constant pinging, I stopped and the link has never
gone down again. I don't even worry about it during a thunderstorm
anymore :-)

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gloria Vester
Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 8:52 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [smartBridges] [good and bad] New aPPo from Singapore
Sully,
Thanks for the info - appreciate you keeping us informed.  A lot of us
are getting some of these new units and are also holding our breath
hoping they solve the problems.  Of course, we are all hoping that we
will one day be able to breath again and not have to baby-sit our APPOs
and keep checking their status with fear in our hearts that something

is


going to be down.  I am still pinging the hell out of mine to keep them
alive until the new ones get here and am in constant fear that

something


might happen to the machine running the ping and I will lose one again.
The last thing I do each night before I go to sleep is check to make
sure the ping is still running and they are all up, and it is the first
thing I check when I wake up.  It sure would be nice to go to sleep one
night not worrying that all the APPOs are going to be down when I get
up.  Best of luck to you - I sure hope for your sake, and all our
sake's, that these new ones work the way they are supposed to.

Thanks,
Gloria

----- Original Message ----- From: The Wirefree Network <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 8:33 AM
Subject: [smartBridges] [good and bad] New aPPo from Singapore


Well.I have some good and bad news about my new "gold sticker" aPPo
units.

BAD NEWS
As you can see by the attached (small) pic.the RSSI at several clients
has been steadily going down hill since replacing the unit at 1400
yesterday.  Believe me, I could paste about 15 clients that had 100%
RSSI and since 1400 have steadily been going down hill.

GOOD NEWS
The unit is working.and has not (yet) crapped out like the others did
with bad chips.

BAD NEWS
With the steadily decreasing RSSI.I don't know how long anyone will

hold


up.

GOOD NEWS
There are some differences between this aPPo install and the last.  I
used a different antenna (same brand and rating-but different), and a
different (yet shorter) pigtail between the antenna and the radio.
So.this could point to the antenna and pigtail.not the radio.

BAD NEWS
Maybe I'm wrong here.but if the new pigtail and antenna were flaky, I
would imagine that it would be a sudden affect on the RSSI of my
clients, not steadily falling??!?!

So..bottomline is..I am now holding my breath.

More to come.

Sully

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of The Wirefree
Network
Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 2:43 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [smartBridges] New aPPo from Singapore

Well..I burned in my settings for my head-end with simpleDeploy last
night.I then added the MAC list.  No problems at all.took 30 seconds.

I just jumped up on the roof and swapped out my crappy aPPo in about 15
minutes.  ALL MY USERS CAME BACK ONLINE INSTANTLY AND HAVE NOT YET
DROPPED OFF!!  Woohoo!!  Maybe I shouldn't yell so loud.it has only

been


20 minutes so far.  But.my 2 previous bad ones crapped out in less than
10 minutes.

Exception to the above being: the users with bad airBridge units have
not come back online yet, but they were already down.  My

sub-contractor


is going to be swapping out 10 units tonight.

Oh.one more thing to add to the new aPPo's..the two metal brackets that
are connected to the aPPo are now powder coated to match the aPPo box.
In other words, they are no longer shiny stainless steel.  Just one

more


way for you to identify new from old.

Will keep you posted!!

Sully

P.S.  I am feeling good about this!!  Next week may be a busy week if
these new units hold up!!!!!



-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Chance
Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 12:14 PM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [smartBridges] Received New Units today from Singapore

Wow this sounds VERY positive but .... I get the feeling im not gonna
get these nice pimp units from ecomm am I cause I ordered 2 days ago im
gonna get stickered ones aren't I :-( "Please update with cd" :-(


_____


From: The Wirefree Network [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 1:51 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I am sitting here burning in new settings for 18 airBridge units and 2
aPPos, to be R&R'd tomorrow.
I just wanted to pass on a couple quick observations that I had noticed
with this DIRECT SHIPMENT from SINGAPORE.
1.       Little RJ-45 cable protector has been softened up and no

longer


takes a pair of vice-grips to disconnect it from the NIC (could still

be


a bit thinner though)
2.       They have now included, in the aPPo box, 2-types of COAX
sealant for the RF connector.
3.       The boxes themselves have GOLD stickers on it and so does the
units. (looks like they were triple checked)
Anyway...looks like sB really is listening to even the seemingly not so
significant suggestions from the forum.
Sully



Martin Moreno
Blazen Wireless
909-907-4106
www.blazenwireless.com
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