So then it really is just a matter of finding compatible switches that can operate at that rate. What did you end up using?
Kevin Summers KISTech Internet Services Inc. www.kistech.com > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of S�mundur Johannsson > Sent: Friday, September 26, 2003 4:24 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Slow down problems > > > Hi we had same problem with our costumers few weeks back, We had advice > from SB in the past to have all switches on the wireless network on Auto. > But when we put the switches to 10 half we have much faster internet > connection to our costumers and no problems,,,,, > > S�mundur J > > > > > Well to be quite honest I don't have speed problems its more of capacity > > problems at the tower from what I can tell. Its the APPO's that cant > > handle > > the traffic maybe because my Dlink switch up there cant handle > it I don't > > know. All I know is when I had the AP-100 up there I just > plugged my Cat 5 > > from my BH into the AP-1000 and I was done no switch to dick with. > > > > How hard would it be to make a 100Mb LAN on the APPO's only I don't know > > but > > I cant keep messing with crap any longer at the expense of my > customers. I > > had something that worked good and was told these APPO's would > be better I > > had my doubts and should have listened to my gut! > > > > I mean why make something with an Ethernet connection with it so slow > > isn't > > standard at least now 100mB or gigabit speeds possible more > expense in the > > chip to upgrade?. The canopy has 100mb, I believe trango does > and so does > > the AP-1000 why bottleneck your system especially at the AP? > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Kevin Summers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Friday, September 26, 2003 4:01 PM > > Subject: RE: [smartBridges] Slow down problems > > > > > > > > I sympathize. I just did the same thing. Replaced the ABO > > at the client site with another brand of client bridge and > > all the problems went away and the throughput doubled. > > > > It turned out to be the fact that the Ethernet on the SB > > radios is Half Duplex, which I can't seem to find anything > > that doesn't cost $275 or more that supports that setting. > > Even the so called "managed" switches that I paid $88 each > > for say in their manual that they don't support 10Mbit Half > > Duplex. THAT is where I think the slowdown, and the problems > > are coming from. > > > > The radio that I replaced the ABO with has an Ethernet jack > > that is 100Mbit Full Duplex. I just think the wireless card > > in the radio is capable of switching from send to receive and > > back faster than the Ethernet chipset that SB is using. > > > > Kevin Summers > > KISTech Internet Services Inc. > > www.kistech.com > > > > > > > > > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Blazen Wireless > >> Sent: Friday, September 26, 2003 3:47 PM > >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Slow down problems > >> > >> > >> Well I have made up my mind I am going to buy an AP-1000 and throw it > >> back > >> up on the tower which means I will have to get two more Ap-1000's > >> to replace > >> at my other remote wipops that feed off the main APPO's! and swap 3 > >> APPO's > >> at customers homes to an ABO or ABI since they wont pass traffic unless > >> associated to another appo! > >> > >> Money I dont have but I cant take this anymore I really feel its > >> the radios > >> but not opposed to any other suggestions on what it could be? > >> > >> I am tired of trouble shooting left and right everytime I get 5-6 > >> customers > >> online at once.. > >> > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Brendan O'Bra" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> Sent: Friday, September 26, 2003 3:20 PM > >> Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Slow down problems > >> > >> > >> Stupid question, but... > >> > >> Have you tried taking the demarctech box out of the loop? > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Blazen Wireless" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> Sent: Friday, September 26, 2003 3:12 PM > >> Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Slow down problems > >> > >> > >> > I am using the bandwidth controller software from www.demarctech.com > >> > > >> > Isn't setting RTS to one going to shut down the customer?? > >> > > >> > > >> > ----- Original Message ----- > >> > From: "Kevin Summers" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> > Sent: Friday, September 26, 2003 3:10 PM > >> > Subject: RE: [smartBridges] Slow down problems > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > Also, how are you throttling bandwidth per customer? > >> > > >> > Kevin Summers > >> > KISTech Internet Services Inc. > >> > www.kistech.com > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > -----Original Message----- > >> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Blazen Wireless > >> > > Sent: Friday, September 26, 2003 3:01 PM > >> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > > Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Slow down problems > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > I also forgot to mention I throttled the one big user down to > >> 100kbps > >> and > >> > > same think its like it has a hold on the APPO at 11 megs (5.5) > >> > > and wont let > >> > > anything else talk to it?? > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > ----- Original Message ----- > >> > > From: "Blazen Wireless" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> > > Sent: Friday, September 26, 2003 2:59 PM > >> > > Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Slow down problems > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > Okay this slow down is really killing me I have all users > turned off > >> that > >> > > appear to be sending any kind of arp but this was not what was > >> causing > >> the > >> > > slowdowns. I have two users on right now one downloading at > >> > > 700kbps and the > >> > > other one my slow customer just trying to surf and cant due it due > >> to > >> ping > >> > > rates we beyond out of control 300-400 and packet loss. > >> > > > >> > > I turn off the one customer who is downloading and the > >> problem resolves. > >> I > >> > > called the customer downloading and they are doing Microsoft > >> patches on > >> > > their machines right now so its not a virus. What gives why can one > >> person > >> > > not taking up the full bandwidth screw the whole system I > >> mean every one > >> > > else is at a dead stand still?? > >> > > > >> > > To me this is a problem in the radio APPO not being able to > >> talk to two > >> > > radios at the same time at two different speeds this thing is > >> totally > >> just > >> > > sh**ing all over itself? > >> > > > >> > > Anyone else see this happen I had the APPO set to 1 meg only 2 meg > >> and > >> 5.5 > >> > > and also 11 but nothing seems to help! I have RTS set to 800 on > >> > > the clients > >> > > and that made no difference I give up this customer wants > me to come > >> pull > >> > > the equipment.. > >> > > > >> > > Any ideas? > >> > > HELP! > >> > > ----- Original Message ----- > >> > > From: "Mark Radabaugh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> > > Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 6:02 PM > >> > > Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Slow down problems > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > This can get tricky. You need to be on a port that sees all of the > >> > > traffic - read that as 'not a switch port'. By definition a > >> switch will > >> > > only show you packets destined for your computer. > >> > > > >> > > If you really want to see what going on you need a hub or a managed > >> switch > >> > > that can replicate all traffic onto a port. > >> > > > >> > > Another option is to use a wireless card in promiscious mode - a > >> > > mode where > >> > > you see all of the traffic. Ethereal will do this with (I > >> think) most > >> > > common wireless cards. > >> > > > >> > > Mark Radabaugh > >> > > Amplex > >> > > (419) 720-3635 > >> > > > >> > > ----- Original Message ----- > >> > > From: "Pascal Losier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> > > Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 5:41 PM > >> > > Subject: RE: [smartBridges] Slow down problems > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > Just a small question, > >> > > > > >> > > > When running ethereal, Do you run it directly on the router > >> > > > (ex.Mikrotik) or on any system connected to the router. > >> > > > > >> > > > Also does it matter if the system running ethereal is log via > >> PPPOE > >> ???? > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > -----Original Message----- > >> > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Blazen > >> Wireless > >> > > > Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 6:12 PM > >> > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > > > Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Slow down problems > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > HAHA well then my router has the virus I get like over 2000 arp > >> request > >> > > > from the router in less then 20 min which I think is way out of > >> control > >> > > > it always is asking who has what IP etc. I was told this is > >> normal in > >> > > > order for the router to know what IP has what mac etc.. > >> > > > > >> > > > ----- Original Message ----- > >> > > > From: "Scott Damron" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> > > > Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 12:15 PM > >> > > > Subject: RE: [smartBridges] Slow down problems > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > A WHOLE bunch of arp requests. If you run ethereal, you > would see > >> > > > upwards of 30 or 40% ARP requests. Some of the viruses cause ARP > >> > > > storms. > >> > > > > >> > > > Scott > >> > > > > >> > > > -----Original Message----- > >> > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Blazen > >> Wireless > >> > > > Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 12:09 PM > >> > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > > > Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Slow down problems > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > What do you mean check arp I know how to check it but what am I > >> looking > >> > > > for?? > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > ----- Original Message ----- > >> > > > From: "Scott Damron" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> > > > Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 11:37 AM > >> > > > Subject: RE: [smartBridges] Slow down problems > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > Check ARP. > >> > > > > >> > > > Scott > >> > > > > >> > > > -----Original Message----- > >> > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Blazen > >> Wireless > >> > > > Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 11:17 AM > >> > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > > > Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Slow down problems > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > I have done that already and there is no ICMP other then me > >> pinging > >> the > >> > > > radios It doesn't happen when there is no one online it only > >> happens > >> > > > when a few close users get on and start to surf and then > >> the far users > >> > > > have a hard time with dropped packets and slow speeds and > >> high pings. > >> I > >> > > > just thing I need to open up another AP closer to them > and keep my > >> > > > distance down to under 5 miles. The one person having the > >> hardest time > >> > > > is about 5.6 miles which is closer then my 7.2 mile customer who > >> is > >> > > > doing great and pointed at the same radio APPO. It might > >> just be this > >> > > > person is in a bad area with more interference is what I am > >> thinking > >> and > >> > > > I also may need to raise her ant a smidge.. > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > ----- Original Message ----- > >> > > > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> > > > Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 11:47 AM > >> > > > Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Slow down problems > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > Every time I've experienced interference (numerous times), it > >> hasn't > >> > > > affected ping times. From what I've seen, it usually causes lost > >> > > > packets, but not high latency. I don't know if anyone has > >> mentioned > >> > > > this before (I jumped in in the middle of this thread), but what > >> you're > >> > > > describing sounds exactly like something I experienced a > few weeks > >> ago. > >> > > > I had about six users with the Welchia virus, and they were > >> causing > >> high > >> > > > latency all over the network. If you haven't done it > already, put > >> a > >> > > > packet sniffer on the network, and see if you're seeing a > >> lot of icmp > >> > > > echo traffic. > >> > > > > >> > > > Craig > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > Quoting Blazen Wireless <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >> > > > > >> > > > > Well maybe this is not the problem now I am back to the > >> same issues > >> > > > > pings up to over 100ms and it seems now more with radios > >> that never > >> > > > > had problems before I am thinking more of interference > >> now? How many > >> > > > > of you have seen a drastic increase in SOHO wireless > >> routers popping > >> > > > > up on your site survey tab when setting up a customer, I s**t > >> you > >> not > >> > > > > one the other day had 11 > >> > > > that > >> > > > > all > >> > > > > said linksys or the default ssid for dlink stuff. Are those > >> > > > manufacturers > >> > > > > within spec it seems more and more are popping up and some with > >> better > >> > > > > >> > > > > signal then my tower according to the site survey numbers > >> in the ABO > >> > > > /ABI > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > >> > > > > From: "Scott Damron" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> > > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 9:07 AM > >> > > > > Subject: RE: [smartBridges] Slow down problems > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > Actually, it does not really drop everyone down to > 1meg, it just > >> _MAY_ > >> > > > > >> > > > > slow down the 11meg folks in order to respond to the 1meg > >> person. > >> Hope > >> > > > > >> > > > > that makes sense. > >> > > > > > >> > > > > Scott > >> > > > > -----Original Message----- > >> > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of The > >> Wirefree > >> > > > > Network > >> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 9:08 AM > >> > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > > > > Subject: RE: [smartBridges] Slow down problems > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > Huh!??!? This seems bass ackwards. If one client > associates at > >> 1 > >> > > > > Meg, it drops everyone down to that speed. Not the other way > >> around. > >> > > > > Weakest link theory. If a client can not associate at 11 Meg > >> and > >> > > > > steps it's way down to 1 Meg, then it CAN NOT be forced to > >> connect > >> at > >> > > > > 11 Meg. However, a client who is close in with 100% RSSI, could > >> be > >> > > > > stepped down to 1 Meg based on some far out client. > >> > > > > > >> > > > > Sully > >> > > > > > >> > > > > -----Original Message----- > >> > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > >> Blazen Wireless > >> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2003 11:56 PM > >> > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > > > > Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Slow down problems > >> > > > > > >> > > > > I have throttling in place now thats not the issue. The > >> issue is in > >> my > >> > > > > >> > > > > opinion and theory is at what rate the radios associate > >> at.. If they > >> > > > > are only associating at 1 meg or less then yes you will have > >> > > > > throughput problems, if I have all my close customers able to > >> > > > > associate at 11 megs > >> > > > > (5.5) and my furthest customers only at 1 meg ( 500kbps) then > >> the > >> > > > > further users are not going to be able to associate at > 1 meg but > >> will > >> > > > be > >> > > > > forced to associate at 11 megs and since that is not a stable > >> link > >> > > > they > >> > > > > will suffer as I kind of proved tonight but cant be 100% > >> sure unless > >> I > >> > > > > >> > > > > could verify what speed the users radios are associating at to > >> the > >> AP. > >> > > > > >> > > > > In theory the AP cant be associated to 3 to 4 radios all at > >> different > >> > > > > speeds. They will be associated at the speed of the > >> slowest radio or > >> > > > the > >> > > > > fastest depending on what radio has the best link I think? > >> > > > > > >> > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > >> > > > > From: Vasu (sB Tech Team) > >> > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2003 11:27 PM > >> > > > > Subject: RE: [smartBridges] Slow down problems > >> > > > > > >> > > > > That's the basics of 802.11 std, when one user hogs the entire > >> > > > > bandwidth the remaining users have to share the > bandwidth, hence > >> > > > > bandwidth throttling is important to ensure good and > >> stable links to > >> > > > > all users, I think the XO series access point should solve your > >> > > > > problem which can provide dedicated bandwidth to every user. > >> > > > > > >> > > > > Vasu > >> > > > > -----Original Message----- > >> > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > >> Blazen Wireless > >> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 2:02 PM > >> > > > > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' > >> > > > > Subject: [smartBridges] Slow down problems > >> > > > > > >> > > > > Okay I think I have figured out the problem with my > >> system. It seems > >> > > > > that when users are one (close users) they are > associated to the > >> APPO > >> > > > > at 5.5 to 11 megs possibly and the users that are further away > >> are > >> at > >> > > > > 1 meg max well if you have the near users at 11 megs tying up > >> the > >> > > > > radio and the far uses cant connect at a slower speed for a > >> better > >> > > > > link / speed quality then the far users suffer? am I correct in > >> my > >> > > > > theory does that make any sense? > >> > > > > > >> > > > > So going forward we are going to have to plan some more > >> sites closer > >> > > > > to the users having issues etc Has anyone else > experienced this. > >> I > >> > > > > cant verify 100% that this is true due to the fact the > >> radios don't > >> > > > > report what speed they are associated at? 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