Eje I was only doing this as a test to see what speed or attempt to see what speed the clients were associating to the AP to.
Quoting Eje Gustafsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Your setting the data rate to 1 Mbps to offer a 512k service ? Now > that isn't very good nor smart. This means that your entire cell NEVER > runs any faster then 1Mbps. ALL your customers are sharing 1Mbps. > > Don't use the radio speed settings as a bandwidth throttle mechanism > get a bandwidth shaper. Get a MikroTik box or a YDI BCU or something > but by george do not set the radio speed to 1Mbit as a way of > bandwidth throttle your clients... That is a waste of radiowaves.. > > I do sell MikroTik routers and bandwidth controllers so I'm somewhat > biased but whatever you do don't do what you do today get yourself a > real bandwidth shaper from me or from anyone else.. > > Because I hope you do understand by setting the data rate to 1Mbps > means you limit ALL your clients to run at a TOTAL of 1Mbps (not 1Mbps > per client to the AP but 1Mbps for ALL clients). > > Think of it as a single file road. If the speed limit is 20mph then > only so many cars can pass a certain stretch of the road in any given > time period (your 1Mbit setting). Now if you up the speed limit to > 40mph (2Mbit setting) still single file road then twice as many cars > (bytes) can be pass through on your road. > If you up to 110mph (5.5Mbit) then you can now pass 5.5 times amount > of cars in the same time period as on the 20mph single file road (more > bytes can be uploaded or downloaded in the same time period). > Now lets go all the way and do 11Mbit or 220mph.. Still single file > road (you only use one frequency to talk to your clients).. > > Best regards, > Eje Gustafsson mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > The Family Entertainment Network http://www.fament.com > Phone : 620-231-7777 Fax : 620-231-4066 > - Your Full Time Professionals - > Online Store http://www.wisp-router.com/ > PACWireless Antennas Distributor - MikroTik OEM > -- > CW> Hi, > > CW> I have not followed the entire thread, but here is what we set the aB > CPE > CW> at: > > CW> Frag Threshold: 1066 > CW> RTS Threshold: 256 > > CW> IP of the CPE is static private (192.168.5.X), full class c subent and > CW> 0.0.0.0 for the gateway. Data rate is set at 1 Mbps. We only offer > 512 > CW> service, so no need to run any higher. > > CW> Our APPO are set at: > > CW> Fragmentation: 2346 > CW> RTS/CTS: 2346 > > CW> All data rates are checked on the APPO, static private IP... > > CW> Could your problem be that the CPE radios are connecting a different > speeds > CW> and the APPO is always busy changing data rates to talk to the various > CPEs? > > CW> Try that... > CW> Chris > > CW> --- > CW> Colorado WISP llc. http://www.cowisp.net > CW> Bringing high speed internet to rural communities. > CW> P.O. Box 55 > CW> Wellington, Colorado 80549 > CW> 970-218-5295 > > > CW> -----Original Message----- > CW> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > CW> On Behalf Of Blazen Wireless > CW> Sent: Friday, September 26, 2003 3:01 PM > CW> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > CW> Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Slow down problems > > > CW> I also forgot to mention I throttled the one big user down to 100kbps > and > CW> same think its like it has a hold on the APPO at 11 megs (5.5) and wont > let > CW> anything else talk to it?? > > > CW> ----- Original Message ----- > CW> From: "Blazen Wireless" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > CW> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > CW> Sent: Friday, September 26, 2003 2:59 PM > CW> Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Slow down problems > > > CW> Okay this slow down is really killing me I have all users turned off > that > CW> appear to be sending any kind of arp but this was not what was causing > the > CW> slowdowns. I have two users on right now one downloading at 700kbps and > the > CW> other one my slow customer just trying to surf and cant due it due to > ping > CW> rates we beyond out of control 300-400 and packet loss. > > CW> I turn off the one customer who is downloading and the problem resolves. > I > CW> called the customer downloading and they are doing Microsoft patches on > CW> their machines right now so its not a virus. What gives why can one > person > CW> not taking up the full bandwidth screw the whole system I mean every > one > CW> else is at a dead stand still?? > > CW> To me this is a problem in the radio APPO not being able to talk to two > CW> radios at the same time at two different speeds this thing is totally > just > CW> sh**ing all over itself? > > CW> Anyone else see this happen I had the APPO set to 1 meg only 2 meg and > 5.5 > CW> and also 11 but nothing seems to help! I have RTS set to 800 on the > clients > CW> and that made no difference I give up this customer wants me to come > pull > CW> the equipment.. > > CW> Any ideas? > CW> HELP! > CW> ----- Original Message ----- > CW> From: "Mark Radabaugh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > CW> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > CW> Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 6:02 PM > CW> Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Slow down problems > > > CW> This can get tricky. You need to be on a port that sees all of the > traffic > CW> - read that as 'not a switch port'. By definition a switch will only > show > CW> you packets destined for your computer. > > CW> If you really want to see what going on you need a hub or a managed > switch > CW> that can replicate all traffic onto a port. > > CW> Another option is to use a wireless card in promiscious mode - a mode > where > CW> you see all of the traffic. Ethereal will do this with (I think) most > CW> common wireless cards. > > CW> Mark Radabaugh > CW> Amplex > CW> (419) 720-3635 > > CW> ----- Original Message ----- > CW> From: "Pascal Losier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > CW> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > CW> Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 5:41 PM > CW> Subject: RE: [smartBridges] Slow down problems > > > >> > >> Just a small question, > >> > >> When running ethereal, Do you run it directly on the router > >> (ex.Mikrotik) or on any system connected to the router. > >> > >> Also does it matter if the system running ethereal is log via PPPOE > >> ???? > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Blazen Wireless > >> Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 6:12 PM > >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Slow down problems > >> > >> > >> HAHA well then my router has the virus I get like over 2000 arp > >> request from the router in less then 20 min which I think is way out > >> of control it always is asking who has what IP etc. I was told this is > >> normal in order for the router to know what IP has what mac etc.. > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Scott Damron" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 12:15 PM > >> Subject: RE: [smartBridges] Slow down problems > >> > >> > >> A WHOLE bunch of arp requests. If you run ethereal, you would see > >> upwards of 30 or 40% ARP requests. Some of the viruses cause ARP > >> storms. > >> > >> Scott > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Blazen Wireless > >> Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 12:09 PM > >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Slow down problems > >> > >> > >> What do you mean check arp I know how to check it but what am I > >> looking for?? > >> > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Scott Damron" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 11:37 AM > >> Subject: RE: [smartBridges] Slow down problems > >> > >> > >> Check ARP. > >> > >> Scott > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Blazen Wireless > >> Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 11:17 AM > >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Slow down problems > >> > >> > >> I have done that already and there is no ICMP other then me pinging > >> the radios It doesn't happen when there is no one online it only > >> happens when a few close users get on and start to surf and then the > >> far users have a hard time with dropped packets and slow speeds and > >> high pings. I just thing I need to open up another AP closer to them > >> and keep my distance down to under 5 miles. The one person having the > >> hardest time is about 5.6 miles which is closer then my 7.2 mile > >> customer who is doing great and pointed at the same radio APPO. It > >> might just be this person is in a bad area with more interference is > >> what I am thinking and I also may need to raise her ant a smidge.. > >> > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 11:47 AM > >> Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Slow down problems > >> > >> > >> Every time I've experienced interference (numerous times), it hasn't > >> affected ping times. From what I've seen, it usually causes lost > >> packets, but not high latency. I don't know if anyone has mentioned > >> this before (I jumped in in the middle of this thread), but what > >> you're describing sounds exactly like something I experienced a few > >> weeks ago. I had about six users with the Welchia virus, and they were > >> causing high latency all over the network. If you haven't done it > >> already, put a packet sniffer on the network, and see if you're seeing > >> a lot of icmp echo traffic. > >> > >> Craig > >> > >> > >> Quoting Blazen Wireless <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >> > >> > Well maybe this is not the problem now I am back to the same issues > >> > pings up to over 100ms and it seems now more with radios that never > >> > had problems before I am thinking more of interference now? How many > >> > of you have seen a drastic increase in SOHO wireless routers popping > >> > up on your site survey tab when setting up a customer, I s**t you > >> > not one the other day had 11 > >> that > >> > all > >> > said linksys or the default ssid for dlink stuff. Are those > >> manufacturers > >> > within spec it seems more and more are popping up and some with > >> > better > >> > >> > signal then my tower according to the site survey numbers in the ABO > >> /ABI > >> > > >> > > >> > ----- Original Message ----- > >> > From: "Scott Damron" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> > Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 9:07 AM > >> > Subject: RE: [smartBridges] Slow down problems > >> > > >> > > >> > Actually, it does not really drop everyone down to 1meg, it just > >> > _MAY_ > >> > >> > slow down the 11meg folks in order to respond to the 1meg person. > >> > Hope > >> > >> > that makes sense. > >> > > >> > Scott > >> > -----Original Message----- > >> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of The Wirefree > >> > Network > >> > Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 9:08 AM > >> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > Subject: RE: [smartBridges] Slow down problems > >> > > >> > > >> > Huh!??!? This seems bass ackwards. If one client associates at 1 > >> > Meg, it drops everyone down to that speed. Not the other way > >> > around. Weakest link theory. If a client can not associate at 11 > >> > Meg and steps it's way down to 1 Meg, then it CAN NOT be forced to > >> > connect at 11 Meg. However, a client who is close in with 100% RSSI, > >> > could be stepped down to 1 Meg based on some far out client. > >> > > >> > Sully > >> > > >> > -----Original Message----- > >> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Blazen Wireless > >> > Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2003 11:56 PM > >> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > Subject: Re: [smartBridges] Slow down problems > >> > > >> > I have throttling in place now thats not the issue. The issue is in > >> > my > >> > >> > opinion and theory is at what rate the radios associate at.. If they > >> > are only associating at 1 meg or less then yes you will have > >> > throughput problems, if I have all my close customers able to > >> > associate at 11 megs > >> > (5.5) and my furthest customers only at 1 meg ( 500kbps) then the > >> > further users are not going to be able to associate at 1 meg but > >> > will > >> be > >> > forced to associate at 11 megs and since that is not a stable link > >> they > >> > will suffer as I kind of proved tonight but cant be 100% sure unless > >> > I > >> > >> > could verify what speed the users radios are associating at to the > >> > AP. > >> > >> > In theory the AP cant be associated to 3 to 4 radios all at > >> > different speeds. They will be associated at the speed of the > >> > slowest radio or > >> the > >> > fastest depending on what radio has the best link I think? > >> > > >> > ----- Original Message ----- > >> > From: Vasu (sB Tech Team) > >> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2003 11:27 PM > >> > Subject: RE: [smartBridges] Slow down problems > >> > > >> > That's the basics of 802.11 std, when one user hogs the entire > >> > bandwidth the remaining users have to share the bandwidth, hence > >> > bandwidth throttling is important to ensure good and stable links to > >> > all users, I think the XO series access point should solve your > >> > problem which can provide dedicated bandwidth to every user. > >> > > >> > Vasu > >> > -----Original Message----- > >> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Blazen Wireless > >> > Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 2:02 PM > >> > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' > >> > Subject: [smartBridges] Slow down problems > >> > > >> > Okay I think I have figured out the problem with my system. It seems > >> > that when users are one (close users) they are associated to the > >> > APPO at 5.5 to 11 megs possibly and the users that are further away > >> > are at 1 meg max well if you have the near users at 11 megs tying up > >> > the radio and the far uses cant connect at a slower speed for a > >> > better link / speed quality then the far users suffer? am I correct > >> > in my theory does that make any sense? > >> > > >> > So going forward we are going to have to plan some more sites closer > >> > to the users having issues etc Has anyone else experienced this. I > >> > cant verify 100% that this is true due to the fact the radios don't > >> > report what speed they are associated at? 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