RE: [smartBridges] 1.08 locking up ???

paul Sat, 22 Nov 2003 09:47:02 -0800

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Kevin,

curiously. I'm at a point where I need to switch everything over to PPPoE as well. I've been looking into it and I think it is possible, what I'm trying to do is make a rolling transition. Can an interface be both a PPPoE server port and maintain it's IP routing at the same time while I'm switching everyone over - and then once everyone is switch I just turn of the IP of that port?

I perhaps need to experiment a little further on this, but some words of wisdom beforehand would be much appreciated.

cheers,

Paul

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-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Summers
Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 3:23 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [smartBridges] 1.08 locking up ???

We went to PPPoE on all of our clients and that eliminated 80% of

the problems associated with DHCP. For what it's worth DHCP on our

network did NOT work unless you had at least 75% RSSI and 75% LQ.

Anything lower than that was unreliable for DHCP.

Kevin Summers
KISTech Internet Services Inc.
www.kistech.com

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of Sevak Avakians
Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 1:37 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [smartBridges] 1.08 locking up ???

Dear all,

I wonder if this is the same problem I've experienced and found what the issue is (at least in my case). For some reason, if a computer is off or after DHCP lease time has expired, getting a new DHCP lease from the wireless network's router is a pain in the @ss. Usually, I either have customers reboot their computers AND airBridges or if it's too many customers I just unplug the router and replug it back in. Had the same problem this morning after exactly 24 days of continuously running without a hitch since last DHCP lease was given to 3 customers, all 3 reported problems getting online. Sure enough, their lease had expired (I've set it to 24 days which is the max) and their computers were not picking up the new lease.

I had this problem before with the airBridges, but I set all the airBridges to static IP and haven't had any issues with those. Always associated...no problems especially for airBridges connected to customer routers with static IPs on the routers, too.

What do you think? Could this be the same thing you're experiencing? I'm using Linksys routers.

Sevak

On Fri, 2003-11-21 at 16:17, shoffman wrote:

Patrick,

As someone plagued with issues on SB equipment over the summer, I HIGHLY 
recommend you go to 1.08 AND burn in your config (using simpledeploy) as 
your default setting..  Just doing 1.08 has decrease our troubles by 
about 70%.  Going to long Preamble has decreased issues by another 15%.  
Burning in the config has about made our problems disappear.  I DO ping 
all my units though.  

As I stated, this has become a monitoring tool, and I dare not turn it 
off just to "find out" if problems arise.  Only calls we get now are 
from normal network issues (My mail won't work) or from units we have not 
visited to burn in the default config.. 

I REALLY WOULD LIKE TO DO THIS REMOTE FOR AIRBRIDGED PRODUCTS  I can see 
SB's stance for this on AP's but not for CPE's... let the customer change 
their settings and burn them in.. its not like the unit has bandwidth 
control or something.. and even if it did, if we see a password change we 
will just remove its MAC from authorization!  SB please reconsider!!!

Scott


-----Original Message-----
From: "Patrick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 15:52:58 -0500
Subject: Re: [smartBridges] 1.08 locking up ???

> I have not upgraded to 1.08 because I figure what is the point? There
> has yet to be a firmware upgrade that hasn't had some sort of an issue.
> But anyways, what I have noticed with the airbridges that stop
> responding, is that they work great for 1-2 months flawlessly, then all
> of a sudden, they begin having problems, usually many times a day. I go
> to the customer location, upgrade the firmware and we seem to be good.
> My biggest complaint is that if the unit is bad, then why doesn't it
> have a problem in the beginning. I have not changed the APPO firmware
> since day one of installing them so that is not the problem.  
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: Seeni Mohamed 
>   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>   Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 2:28 PM
>   Subject: RE: [smartBridges] 1.08 locking up ???
> 
> 
> 
> 
>   The behavior of the airbridge firmware is that when there is no
> traffic passed for the certain period, the airbridge becomes idle but
> the LINK STATUS shows that it is REMAIN associated. Once the traffic
> (browsing, ping or any application) is kicked in, then it will wake up
> again and start talking to the access point.
> 
> 
> 
>   Since watchdog feature firmware continuously monitoring the link at
> every 3 minutes interval which will make sure that the LINK STATUS is
> up all the times and it is not necessary to run continuous PING to wake
> up the unit. 
> 
> 
> 
>   I have done all my best effort to reproduce it here, but I always
> failed to reproduce it in our LAB setup. The LAB setup done with
> airbridge 0.01.08 which is connected to the Linksys switch and 3 more
> PCs are connected behind the switch, No traffic pass thru and it was
> running for about 3 days during the weekend. 
> 
> 
> 
>   After 3 days, we logged into the unit, can browse and Ping to the
> gateway without having any power reset. We have tried by manually power
> OFF the AP (to check the aB reset) for certain period and then ON back
> again and still airbridge passes the traffic again.
> 
> 
> 
>   When you are seeing the Ethernet lockup with our BETA 0.01.08, can
> you see the link status is UP or not? 
> 
> 
> 
>   If any one interested, please kindly try using the above setup at
> your LAB and see whether you can able to reproduce it there.  If really
> an issue, then we also should be able reproduce it here at any time.
> 
> 
> 
>   We appreciate your feedback on this new beta firmware which is really
> helps (making busy) us to identify any root cause of the problem.
> 
> 
> 
>   Thank you
> 
> 
> 
>   Kind regards,
> 
>   Seeni
> 
>   sB Tech Support
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>   -----Original Message-----
>   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Pascal Losier
>   Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2003 12:50 AM
>   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>   Subject: RE: [smartBridges] 1.08 locking up ???
> 
> 
> 
>   If we all have the problem....... Why does the SBtech team not having
> it
> 
>   ????
> 
> 
> 
>   When the custumer comes in at the PC & try to browse...... Does it
> wake
> 
>   the AB up ???
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>   -----Original Message-----
> 
>   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>   [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Jerry Carter
> 
>   Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 12:29 PM
> 
>   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>   Subject: Re: [smartBridges] 1.08 locking up ???
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> 
> 
> 
>   This is what I do. I ping everyone's router every 3 minutes and I
> never
> 
>   have a problem. I use a nice windows tool called smonitor.
> 
> 
> 
>   Jerry
> 
>   ----- Original Message -----
> 
>   From: "Martin Moreno" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
>   To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
>   Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 11:26 AM
> 
>   Subject: RE: [smartBridges] 1.08 locking up ???
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> 
> 
> 
> 
>   > So far I ping every 30 seconds and that seems to work and yes from 
> 
>   > what I
> 
>   see
> 
>   > you have to ping the client sde router or PC to keep the lan awake
> on 
> 
>   > the
> 
>   ABO
> 
>   > OR ABI..
> 
>   >
> 
>   > Quoting Pascal Losier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> 
>   >
> 
>   > > When running ping to all radio.....Do you ping every second or
> every
> 
> 
> 
>   > > minute ??
> 
>   > >
> 
>   > > Does it meen having 100 custumer will need having 100 ping going 
> 
>   > > on..?
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>   > >
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>   > >
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>   > >
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>   > >
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>   > > -----Original Message-----
> 
>   > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> 
>   > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of shoffman
> 
>   > > Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 12:03 PM
> 
>   > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Blazen Wireless
> 
>   > > Subject: Re: [smartBridges] 1.08 locking up ???
> 
>   > >
> 
>   > >
> 
>   > >
> 
>   > > The only time we have seen this issue is when there is a 
> 
>   > > router/switch directly under the AirBridge.  What's funny is that
> we
> 
> 
> 
>   > > started our continuous pinging of the radio side again, and the
> 
>   problem has
> 
>   > > disappeared again.   Guess these AB's are like ditch diggers, if
> you
> 
>   > > watch them continuously (ping or something) then not a problem.  
> 
>   > > Turn your back and trust they are working... they go off to sleep
> 
>   > > under a tree somewhere... ;)
> 
>   > >
> 
>   > > Scott
> 
>   > >
> 
>   > >
> 
>   > > -----Original Message-----
> 
>   > > From: "Blazen Wireless" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
>   > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
>   > > Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 06:42:46 -0800
> 
>   > > Subject: Re: [smartBridges] 1.08 locking up ???
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>   > >
> 
>   > > > I fidn that if I constant ping everything I don't seem to have 
> 
>   > > > that problem but I have to ping the device on the LAN side of
> the 
> 
>   > > > ABO and most people have pings turned off but so far (cross my 
> 
>   > > > fingers) the ones I am able to
> 
>   > > > ping have not had any problems this past week..
> 
>   > > >
> 
>   > > > I find this as a problem that needs so more investigation..
> 
>   > > >
> 
>   > > >
> 
>   > > > ----- Original Message -----
> 
>   > > > From: "Pascal Losier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
>   > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>   > > > Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 6:29 AM
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>   > > > Subject: RE: [smartBridges] 1.08 locking up ???
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>   > > >
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>   > > >
> 
>   > > >
> 
>   > > > Hi , We've all heard about 1.08 locking up...
> 
>   > > >
> 
>   > > > I have a link that was OK with 1.08 but it started working 
> 
>   > > > flawlessly.
> 
>   > > >
> 
>   > > > I have an APPO at the otherside of the link
> 
>   > > >
> 
>   > > > If I ping the AB wirelessly, it will always respond.
> 
>   > > > If I ping the APPO sitting at the back, it will respond but
> will 
> 
>   > > > stop after a while.
> 
>   > > >
> 
>   > > > If I search with Airbridge monitor, it will wake up everything
> at 
> 
>   > > > the back of this bridge.
> 
>   > > >
> 
>   > > > If I run simple NMS...... This lockup never happens.
> 
>   > > >
> 
>   > > > Smartbridges could not have those lock up when testing, maybe
> it 
> 
>   > > > is simply because Simple NMS was running somewhere on their 
> 
>   > > > network.... (Just a clue).
> 
>   > > >
> 
>   > > > But those lock up in 1.08 are real. I got them.
> 
>   > > >
> 
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