Sam, again your knowledge is boundless. Would you mind terribly if you have the 
time telling that to me again but imagine you are instructing a 5 year old ... 
Please?

Jonathan Brady
Tel: +447931541489

On 28 Aug 2013, at 22:15, Sam - MacAmbulance <i...@macambulance.co.uk> wrote:

> Hi Jonathan
> 
> With airport express these days, you don't extend the network, you set them 
> to create the exact same network, name, password and channel. Apple call it a 
> roaming network.
> 
> The sky box won't support any wds wifi distribution with the airport express, 
> so you just create an identical network and make sure the Ethernet cable is 
> connected.
> 
> The older airport should be set to join the network instead of creating one 
> as its not connected via Ethernet. It'll then provide airplay services but no 
> wifi extension
> 
> Regards
> 
> Sam
> 
> 
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> On 28 Aug 2013, at 23:56, Jonathan Brady <laddymcb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Hello all.
>> 
>> Apologies for the usual long preamble but it may prove necessary in this 
>> case.
>> 
>> Until this very morning, I was using O2 broadband as I got a discount in 
>> conjunction with them being my iPhone carrier.  The O2 broadband provided 
>> Thomson wireless router was set up as the main router providing the internet 
>> to my iMac and allowing me to connect a wireless Canon printer to the 
>> network.  Additionally I had two Airport Expresses, one is the newer version 
>> supporting up to 802.11N and connecting to the mains socket via a cable and 
>> the other a slightly older version which plugs directly into the wall socket 
>> as in the product's original design.  I used to be able to use both express 
>> units to extend the WiFi network in the house and also had the newer one 
>> connected to my stereo so that I could stream the contents of my iTunes 
>> library to it using AirTunes.  The Airport Express units were both always 
>> visible in the Airport utility and their firmware versions were up to date.  
>> As a result of Telefonica selling the O2 Broadband service to Sky, I decided 
>> to take up Sky's offer for broadband, tv, and telephone to former O2 
>> customers.  Cue a Sky telephone engineer arriving this morning to do the 
>> necessary installation to switch us to their fibre-optic broadband.  This 
>> works brilliantly and blows away the 3Mb service that we used to average 
>> with O2 and whose lack of speed was a reason for using the Airport Expresses 
>> to extend the network.  It now runs at ten times the speed.
>> 
>> However, try as I might, and I have undertaken hard resets on the Airport 
>> Express to this effect, I cannot get Airport Utility to see the Airport 
>> Express units anymore insofar as giving me an option to use them to extend 
>> the network now that the Sky hub is providing the network.  They are 
>> definitely in range and Airport Utility gives me the option to switch to one 
>> of them as an alternative network to the new Sky one.  However, that is not 
>> what I want to do.  At least I don't think so.  Does anyone have any 
>> experience of using Airport Express base stations with Sky hubs?  On the Sky 
>> users forums there are conflicting accounts of people succeeding and failing 
>> to connect the Airport Express units.  Currently I am certainly in the 
>> failing category.  The extending of the WiFi network is not an issue 
>> anymore, rather I would like to get Airtunes to work again with my stereo 
>> (the iMac and stereo are on opposite sides of the house).  I still have the 
>> Thomson router provided by O2 so I suppose I could swap the Sky one for the 
>> Thomson one? Ideally I'd like to keep using the Sky hub as it seems to be 
>> pumping out a pretty good signal.  I understand there's the possibility of 
>> replacing the Sky hub with the newer Airport Express but I need a Wireless 
>> Access Point to enable the printer to work on the network.  I also still 
>> have two powerline adapters.  
>> 
>> Apologies again for the length of the message but if anyone is kind enough 
>> to respond to it I figured it would make sense to divulge as much 
>> information as possible.
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Jonathan Brady
>> 
>> 
>> 
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