Aperture still works fine on El Capitan but it's no longer available to buy as 
far as I know.  I used to have a disk for V2 I think but that may not run on El 
Capitan. V3 was the last version is it was Mac App Store only.

Stephen

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> On 13 Feb 2016, at 08:12, andrew lancaster <andre...@mac.com> wrote:
> 
> Is Aperture still current? If so I may well change allegiance and start using 
> that!
> 
> Andrew
> 
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> 
>> On 12 Feb 2016, at 19:45, Stephen Watson <itsagr...@icloud.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I'm fairly sure that Aperture, iPhoto and Photos all share the same library 
>> - up to a point. I seem to remember that changes made in Photos will not 
>> appear in iPhoto and vice versa but you should be able to ignore Photos and 
>> start again from whatever iPhoto shows you.
>> 
>> I haven't used iPhoto since I started with Aperture and I'm fairly sure that 
>> that's how it worked with Aperture.
>> 
>> Stephen
>> 
>> We are Costa of Borg. We will add your vibrancy and distinctiveness to our 
>> own. Your town and your customers will service us. Resistance is futile.
>> 
>>> On 12 Feb 2016, at 18:33, andrew lancaster <andre...@mac.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I REALLY don't like "photos". With iPhoto I could find collections and 
>>> groups of photos that I wanted. 
>>> 
>>> Now, I have thousands, many of them duplicates, and not in any organised or 
>>> logical arrangement. Almost as though they'd just been thrown in a heap, 
>>> mixed up and dumped back randomly. No time sequence, nothing I can sort 
>>> out. 
>>> 
>>> Is it possible to go back to iPhoto?
>>> 
>>> Andrew
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On 11 Feb 2016, at 18:06, Jason Davies <ophioc...@me.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I'm going to sound grumpy and reactionary, because I'm being risk-averse. 
>>>> It doesn't mean I'm wrong though!
>>>> 
>>>> Photos.app is a disaster. I've lost and had duplicated hundreds of photos. 
>>>> It's only my paranoid set-up that means I think I've retrieved them. I'm 
>>>> in the middle of moving all my 90gigs of photos and videos to Devonthink 
>>>> Pro, saved on Dropbox and in Time Machine, and using Photos *only* for 
>>>> photo stream-like activity. I would go so far as to say if you can't see a 
>>>> problem, you should look more closely. Because I'm having to effectively 
>>>> recreate the old iPhoto set-up, tags etc, and check for duplicates and 
>>>> missing photos, it's taking absolutely forever.
>>>> 
>>>> It's a shame there aren't really any alternatives that do something 
>>>> similar; as you said Google seems to compress them. I strongly recommend 
>>>> that you keep an eye on your photos and Photos and ensure you put copies 
>>>> of the really important ones somewhere else, eg dropbox camera upload (if 
>>>> you clear it out regularly, but let TM archive them, they're retrievable. 
>>>> Dropbox also dates them in the name so that helps relocate them later).
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On 9 Feb 2016, at 14:09, PHILIP TOMLINSON wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Stephen,Thanks for your advice. I never ticked the option to upload 
>>>>> all my photos onto iCloud, just the "Photo Stream". I have a lot of 
>>>>> photos (6,783) and didn't want to pay for extra storage.Actually I can 
>>>>> now access my photos in "Photos"again but I don't feel that I completely 
>>>>> understand what's happened. Mac "Photos" seems to work again if "Google 
>>>>> Photos" app is live on my menu bar. Do you think that the Google app has 
>>>>> relocated all the files of my photos? If I look at Photos Library on my 
>>>>> Mac it shows 37.08 GB used.Phil
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Tuesday, 9 February 2016, 13:21, Stephen Watson <itsagr...@icloud.com> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Ooooo errrrrr.
>>>>> I'd start by logging into your iCloud account and seeing what photos are 
>>>>> in there - if they all appear then I'd think that your Photos are safely 
>>>>> on Apple's servers. If you start photos with the alt/option key down it 
>>>>> asks if you want to rebuild your Mac Photos library so I suppose you 
>>>>> could try that.
>>>>> When I used the iCloud Photo Library I loaded up everything from my Mac 
>>>>> photos onto iCloud, which took about a week. Then  switched it on on my 
>>>>> iPad and I asked if I wanted to merge my pics as I still had some in the 
>>>>> iPad's camera roll that weren't in iCloud. I said yes to that and they 
>>>>> were added to the pot and now they're all on iCloud and iPad.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I'm sure others will have sensible suggestions. :-)
>>>>> Stephen
>>>>> We are Costa of Borg. We will add your vibrancy and distinctiveness to 
>>>>> our own. Your town and your customers will service us. Resistance is 
>>>>> futile.
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 9 Feb 2016, at 11:41, PHILIP TOMLINSON 
>>>>> <philip.tomlins...@btinternet.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Dear Friends I really need advice.This morning I tried to open “Photos” 
>>>>> on my iMac and, although its name appears on the menu bar, no screen 
>>>>> appears. If I click on “photos” in the “window” menu, a screen does 
>>>>> appear but it is blank and empty. Most of the other menu items are greyed 
>>>>> out.Several things that I did recemtly may possibly have a bearing on 
>>>>> this awful, terrible event:-1. I installed “BeetleCam” duplicate cleaner 
>>>>> first on my iPad, then on my Mac and used it a couple of times. All 
>>>>> seemed well. 2. I purchased some file space on Google Photos and backed 
>>>>> up all of my pictures in Photos onto it. It finished backing up 
>>>>> yesterday. All seemed well. This morning Photos is empty!!!I still have 
>>>>> all my pictures in the iOS version of Photos on my iPad, thank God, but I 
>>>>> worry that if I sync my iPad with my iMac, they too will disappear…. All 
>>>>> my pictures are available on Google’s “Photos” but the quality isn’t as 
>>>>> good as on Mac Photos. I want my Photos back!!
>>>>> Phil
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