Re: [Sndbox] Feeding Tube Removed

[Tim Harder]

It said that at the terri website?



On Thursday, October 16, 2003, at 04:22 PM, Laurie wrote:

I was looking at this earlier...you know if the man
divorces this woman..she will lose her insurance
benefits...and then do you think the parents would
pick that up? Or that their insurance company would
allow a pre-existing condition? Hard call...but I
think starving her is too harsh...
Laurie
--- Tim Harder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Jen and whom ever still gives a hay about this
topic.
click on that link that was in the story that Jen
sent.
It will explain a lot...


On Thursday, October 16, 2003, at 05:53 PM, Jen --
wrote:
This is a good point.....

----- Original Message -----
From: Tim Harder
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Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 12:38 PM
Subject: Re: [Sndbox] Feeding Tube Removed
I am betting that there is money involved.

If it wasn't... why wouldn't he just divorce the
woman and wash his hands of the whole thing?


On Thursday, October 16, 2003, at 02:42 PM, Greg
Hopper wrote:
But honestly, you don't think his having a
girlfriend could influence
how he felt?

----- Original Message -----
From: Tim Harder
To: The Sandbox Discussion List
Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 2:29 PM
Subject: Re: [Sndbox] Feeding Tube Removed


I don't have a problem with him finding another...
I was just trying to point out what the parents
are
probably thinking when the husband is the one
that gets to choose and chooses to kill her...


On Thursday, October 16, 2003, at 05:12 PM, Jen --
wrote:
Its been 13 years though......

----- Original Message -----
From: Greg Hopper
To: The Sandbox Discussion List
Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 10:53 AM
Subject: Re: [Sndbox] Feeding Tube Removed
Ok he has a girlfreind? That sheds a whole new
light on it....gives
the parents more credibility if you ask me.....  
 
"Bob Schindler said this of Michael Schiavo, his
daughter's husband:
"He's going to live with this a lot longer than we
will. That's his
conscience, and his girlfriend's conscience"

----- Original Message -----
From: Jen --
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Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 3:02 PM
Subject: [Sndbox] Feeding Tube Removed
PINELLAS PARK, Florida (CNN) -- The feeding tube
was removed Wednesday
from a woman who has been in a coma-like state
since 1990, beginning a
process that could take up to two weeks to bring
about her death.
But the parents of Terri Schiavo, 39, remained
optimistic that Gov.
Jeb Bush still could intervene and order the
feeding tube re-inserted.
The parents, Mary and Bob Schindler, have been in
a long fight to keep
their daughter alive. They have been opposed by
Schiavo's husband and
legal guardian, Michael Schiavo, who has said his
wife would never
have wanted to remain alive in such a state.

"I just haven't given up hope yet," Mary Schindler
told reporters
outside the hospice where her daughter has been
living.
Bob Schindler said this of Michael Schiavo, his
daughter's husband:
"He's going to live with this a lot longer than we
will. That's his
conscience, and his girlfriend's conscience."

The feeding tube was to be removed at 2 p.m., and
an attorney for
Michael Schiavo confirmed its removal.

Randall Terry, president for the Society for Truth
and Justice, has
acted as a family spokesman. Terry is co-founder
of the anti-abortion
group Operation Rescue.

"It's an outrage," Terry said. "She's being
starved to death. We would
not treat an animal like this and we're hoping
that Gov. Bush
intervenes."

The two parents met Wednesday with Bush in a final
push to get the
governor to intervene. Bob Schindler said the
meeting was positive and
that Bush said he would have "his staff explore
every, every
possibility."

"We felt a lot better when we left the interview
with him," Bob
Schindler said. "He is a fine, fine man and he has
high integrity and
I have confidence in him."

Terry said the key question they put to the
governor was: "Does the
chief executive officer of this state have the
authority under the
constitution to intervene if he believes that an
innocent person is
being killed, even if it is happening under the
color of law?"
Terri Schiavo has been in what the courts call a
persistent vegetative
state since collapsing at her home from heart
failure in 1990. The
heart failure temporarily cut off oxygen to her
brain and caused
massive brain damage.

Michael Schiavo asked to have the feedings of his
wife discontinued,
claiming she had made clear in the past she did
not want to live on
life support.

According to her parents' Web site,
www.terrisfight.org, Terri Schiavo
left no will or other written instructions.

Terry Schiavo can open her eyes. Her parents say
she can laugh, cry
and make noises. But people in such a state
occasionally grimace, cry
or laugh, according to the National Institute of
Neurological
Disorders and Stroke.

The feeding tube was removed one time previously
for 60 hours before
it was reinserted under court order. The father
said he hoped that
would happen again, but added, "The longer this
goes, the more
concerned I'll be."

Outside the hospice, dozens of people held signs,
sang hymns and
chanted slogans such as "Who will be next?" and
"It could be your
daughter." One sign read, "Let her live!" Another
said, "Stay Terri's
Execution."

Doctors and medical experts testified in previous
court proceedings it
may take up to two weeks for Terri Schiavo to die
once the tube is
removed.

On Tuesday, the 2nd Florida District Court of
Appeal in Lakeland
refused to block a probate judge's order to remove
the
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