I seem to have no problems with postfix.

Oct 17 10:49:54 smtp postfix/smtp[12057]: E531D1CD02: to=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 
relay=mx3.mail.yahoo.com[67.28.113.74]:25, delay=2.5, delays=0.05/0.01/0.4/2, 
dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (250 ok dirdel)

I checked the logs from yesterday also and have not had any issues.

Jacques Brouwers
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Matrosity Hosting
Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 10:50 AM
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Subject: [sniffer] Re: yahoo mail problems

mx3 appears to respond
Bill Foresman 
Matrosity Hosting 
www.matrosity.com 
850.656.2644 
 

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Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 12:36 PM
To: Message Sniffer Community
Subject: [sniffer] Re: yahoo mail problems
We were thinking of that approach but we run dedicated dns servers that are 
extremely high traffic so we would have to setup dns on each server as adding 
the zone to our true dns would cause lookup issues for other yahoo services


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Andrew
Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 12:38 PM
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Subject: [sniffer] Re: yahoo mail problems

I had a similar problem with Hotmail once upon a time; the details were 
different, but the remedy was the same.
 
I run a caching DNS server on my outbound DNS host, so I simply added a DNS 
zone for Yahoo.com on it, and populated only enough MX record information so 
that I could reliably get to just a few hosts.
 
The same dummy zone technique could be used here to consistently deliver mail 
to the same Yahoo! mail hosts and therefore their greylisting will work as they 
expect.
 
If you try it and it works, please let us know.
 
Andrew 8)
 
 

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Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 9:12 AM
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Subject: [sniffer] Re: yahoo mail problems
Here’s what we have found so far

Yahoo is grey listing but instead of running a centralized GL database each of 
their servers has it’s own

A lookup for their MX shows

Mx1.mail.yahoo.com
Mx2.mail.yahoo.com
Mx3.mail.yahoo.com

So your server grabs one of these and does a lookup which returns a round robin 
response for mx1.mail.yahoo.com of

4.79.181.14
4.79.181.15
4.79.181.168
67.28.113.71
67.28.113.73
67.28.113.19

Each of which has a TTL of 1800

So your server tries one of these and gets deferred to try again.  It waits and 
tries again – but depending on your retry frequency TTL may have expired

And so the process starts over with a new MX1.mail.yahoo.com server


Not sure if this is all correct but it is the best we can figure out as of yet



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Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 12:11 PM
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Subject: [sniffer] Re: yahoo mail problems

Now that I've looked into it further, yes! Our E-mails to Yahoo have also been 
bouncing back as undeliverable with the same error.
 
I have sent out a few test messages and will report back when I have some more 
info.
 
 
Michael Stein
Computer House
 
----- Original Message ----- 
From: Tech Support 
To: Message Sniffer Community 
Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 11:52 AM
Subject: [sniffer] Re: yahoo mail problems

Thanks, but were not blacklisted and there are no entries other than message 
has been deferred ☹


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Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 11:54 AM
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I would recommend checking your mail server logs for a more detailed 
description of the bounce error.  You may find that it is a DNS or spam 
blacklist issue.  www.dnsstuff.com is a good resource.
 
 
Michael Stein
Computer House
 
----- Original Message ----- 
From: Tech Support 
To: Message Sniffer Community 
Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 10:50 AM
Subject: [sniffer] yahoo mail problems

I’m sorry to post this here but we are desperately looking for opinions quickly 
as this has becoming a real issue to us and I could not think of any better 
place to find truly technical mail server folks ☺


We seem to be having multiple mail servers on multiple networks having issues 
sending to yahoo servers for going on 36 hours now

these are a variety of server types on a variety of networks 

telnet on port 25 is usually getting this 

451 Message temporarily deferred - 4.16.50

keep in mind that some of our servers are having no issues sending mail 

any one else having this issue

         
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