The message size is about 300B. However, more important measure is the
message complexity wrt XML. It is faster to parse a message with xsd:string
than structure. At Systinet, we are working on reasonable benchmarks and we
will publish it very soon. The fact, that there are no benchmarks yet makes
me nervous :-)
The bad thing is that HTTP processing is naturaly included. In WASP, it is
easy to divide transport from the rest, but I'm not sure how easy/difficult
will it be in other implementations.

I appreciate any benchmarking ideas!

Radovan

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To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 9:09 PM
Subject: RE: Re: Performance problems


> Radovan,
>
> What was the size of your message?  I've seen similar numbers with
> very small message sizes (~.03KB).  Have you done any testing with
> larger message sizes?   I've seen a roundtrip of about 1 second w/a
> message size of ~ 475KB.  Curious if you have done any extensive
> testing.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Chuck
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: janecek
> Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 12:22 PM
> To: soap-user
> Cc: janecek
> Subject: Re: Performance problems
>
>
> Since I got some follow-up questions, I just want to say it more
> precisely:
> This number does not mean a throughput. It means a number of
> individual
> sequential roundtrips between one client and one server. I.e. one
> roundtrip
> is about 2 ms.
>
> Radovan
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Radovan Janecek" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 2:10 PM
> Subject: Re: Performance problems
>
>
> > I meant 500 roundtrips. Client sends a request, server eats it and
> produces
> > response, client gets a response.
> >
> > R.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "William Brogden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 2:55 PM
> > Subject: Re: Performance problems
> >
> >
> > > Throughput is not the same as total delay from message sent
> > > to response received. What is the WASP round-trip delay?
> > >
> > > Radovan Janecek wrote:
> > > >
> > > > 3 seconds for one message is a problem even over HTTP :-)
> > > > WASP (Systinet's SOAP java stack) does about 500 messages
> (helloworld
> > like)
> > > > per second.
> > > >
> > > > Sincerely
> > > >
> > > > Radovan
> > > >
> > > > Radovan Janecek
> > > > VP, Engineering, Systinet  (formerly Idoox)
> > > > http://www.systinet.com
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Ian Snead" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 1:21 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: Performance problems
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm a little confused. 3 seconds over HTTP is a
> > > > > performance problem? Sounds about average to me,
> > > > > especially with XML parsing involved at both
> > > > > ends...please correct me if this doesn't make
> > > > > sense.
> > > > >
> > > > > Anybody got a good reference URL to a digest of
> > > > > the SOAP performance debate?
> > > > >
> > > > > Cheers!
> > > > >
> > > > > Ian
> > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I am having BIG performance problems just running a simple
> (Hello
> > World)
> > > > > > type program under Suse Linux 7.1. My setup is ;
> > > > > >
> > > > > > JAVA (SUN) 1.3.1
> > > > > > TOMCAT 4.0.1
> > > > > > SOAP 2.2
> > > > > >  JavaMail 1.2
> > > > > > Xerces-J 1.4.3
> > > > > > JAF 1.0.1
> > > > > >
> > > > > > And the JVM is set to -classic in jvm.cfg.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > When I run the client (built with the same s/w as above) on
> either
> > the
> > > > same
> > > > > > Linux box or on a different NT Workstation V4 box, the
> response
> time
> > > > from
> > > > > > hitting enter to getting the response is around 3 seconds.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > This application is v.simple (copied from a JavaWorld
> article at
> > > > > >
> http://www.javaworld.com/javaworld/jw-04-2001/jw-0427-soap.html).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > To get it all working I changed catalina.sh in the
> tomcat/bin
> > directory
> > > > to
> > > > > > include the above components in the classpath as follows ;
> > > > > >
> > > > > > CP=$CP:"/home/steve/soap-2_2/lib/soap.jar"
> > > > > > CP=$CP:"/home/steve/javamail-1.2/mail.jar"
> > > > > >
> CP=$CP:"/home/steve/jakarta-tomcat-4.0.1/common/lib/servlet.jar"
> > > > > > CP=$CP:"/home/steve/jakarta-tomcat-4.0.1/server/lib"
> > > > > > CP=$CP:"/usr/java/jdk1.3.1_01/lib"
> > > > > > CP="/home/steve/xerces-1_4_3/xerces.jar":$CP
> > > > > > CP=$CP:"/home/steve/jaf-1.0.1/activation.jar"
> > > > > > CP=$CP:"/home/steve/soap-2_2/samples"
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The above lines were added after the CP env.var is set.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The Java Profiler shows no real CPU usage.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The CPU monitor shows the CPU pushing 100% for a brief
> period.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The hard disk light flickers briefly (logging ?)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I guess my setup is wrong somewhere but I have no idea
> where.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Is anyone else running this config ?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Any help will be very gratefully taken.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks in advance.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Steve Mullarkey
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