hi guys!!
it does seem kinda silly how things work with formating contest's. seems like no body 
is happy.. i like the randon man on man, that
keeps eveyone flying against everyone. then the question is? when they normalize for 
class how come when you move up a class, you
can't take your points? you flew against everyone!!! it only seeems fair to keep the 
points. now, if you flew only against the
people in your class, then that would be one thing. but in an random format, there 
really shouldn't be a class normalization...
the other thing is winner flies againt winners, and so on. the only people that 
benifit here are the winners, the better flyers..
they have to compete with tough flyers, that makes you better! the other guys who are 
flying  against each other are mediun to
beginer.. they may get a trophy, but they didnt have to fly against any real 
competition, so i believe they will take awhile to
progress as better pilots.. now some people only want to fly on a recreational level,, 
so it's ok for them.. but i think most want
to climb the latter...
so whats the answer?? who knows? whats good for the goose isn't allways good for the 
gander.... good luck.
charles miller

Mark Howard wrote:

> Sorry I just can't stay silent any longer.
> Over the years I've seen a lot of CD's try many different (and some
> unusual) formats in the interest of "even-ing out the field" or
> "de-emphasizing the landing" or some other choice piece of bull crap
> that they invent to pleasure themselves. The guys who do this are
> __USUALLY__  CD's with limited experienced trying to make the game more
> interesting or inviting for those with lesser skills; a laudable
> ambition.  However, the consequence of the format change is usually not
> the one expected - often having the opposite effect. I have flown the
> "winners fly against winners" (WFAW) format in several contests. In the
> first, "Vlad" (not his real name) a pilot of arguably lesser talents did
> poorly in the first round, but won every other round flying against
> mostly novice pilots. Meanwhile, the "A" team guys beat on each other.
> "Vlad" won the contest, NEVER HAVING FLOWN AGAINST MOST OF THE "A" TEAM
> GUYS. The luckiest pilot won - the best pilot lost. The last HLG contest
> I attended, the WFAW format was invoked in the middle of the contest, to
> try to prevent a runaway by the lead pilot; who won anyway.
> Given these scenarios, I think you could hardly call the WFAW format to
> be fair in ANY manner.
> I could go on and on about some other format blunders I've seen, but
> I'll save that for a later day. You're welcome.
> Maybe that would make a better topic for discussion - "my favorite
> contest format blunders". Yes- I've made my share.
> Suffice it to say that there is a reason that we have the same old
> boring formats -- because they have been time-tested to be the fairest
> test of piloting skill - except that stupid bell curve............
> I hope you're reading this Mr. Monaco.
>
> Therms,
>
> Mark
>
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