There is some confusion about how far the plane flies in the FAI task "C" of F3B. The actual requirement is to complete four legs of 150 meters each. The plane of course flies quite a bit farther in accomplishing that task, both horizontally and vertically. I calculated the ACTUAL average speed of the plane in MPH, as that is kinda interesting, rather than an "imaginary" average speed. There is no official speed- it's not at issue, just E.T. So.... 4 X 160 (150m+turn radius+ any over, most likely more)= 640 meters 200 meters start height - zero finishing height (actually a couple of feet ;-) =200 meters 200 vertical meters + 640 horizontal meters = 840 meters. This is probably quite close. I understand many have never seen an F3B speed run, and are thusly confused... John Roe Laguna Hills, Ca www.martialartsacademy.org "In wine there is wisdom, In beer there is strength, In water there is bacteria." German proverb RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]