Gordy you are not that dumb.... Someone already beat you too it....

Someone at the IHLGF ( Don;t remember who.. Anybody?) had a 3m discus launch 
glider... Thermaled for hours on cow farts....

So 20 min would be no problem :-)

Craig... 2 funerals in two days :-(

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:     Wow Jack ,
  
 You are really on to it with this shortening lines thing !  I sat  around for 
quite a few minutes before I thought of something even dumber ...but  I 
managed! :-)
  
 I'm thinking with us getting older and the cost of fuel to lug winches  
around, and if its really about pilot skill and thermal reading/working...lets  
just hand toss the damn things and call for 20min tasks.  
 
We'd be able to get in about 40 rounds per day so that would make  contests 
that much more attractive to attend, and of course set up would be  minimal, 
also no hassles with changing turnarounds for wind direction, and those  
mysterious bastards who you all seem to know are out there who take advantage 
of  line breaks and pop offs, well 'they' will be out of luck with no lines to 
break  and no pop offs.
 
Setting up the models will be easier because there will be no need to  agonize 
over tow hook placement, elevator comps or camber switch  programming.  Those 
of you who haven't figured out how to program your JR  radios so that there's 
no need to flip a switch to make the throttle stick  camber or landing lever in 
mid flight, again no worries, not needed any  more.
 
Dang it makes so much sense, so logical, can't figure out why you guys  didn't 
think of this sooner!
  
 That new 150" SupraDurpraIcon will devour the soaring scene! I mean it  will 
have to have a glide advantage and no worries about clogging up contests  with 
broken line concerns. (and will provide fodder to RC Groups about it having  an 
unfair advantage demanding that owners leave its tips off).
  
 300'?  I laugh!  Lets show 'those' guys at contest that us real  men want a 
true soaring event....lets get rid of winches all together!   
What do you think Chicago?  You guys seem to have been sitting around  thinking 
up good ideas :-)
  
 Shorten the lines and you can bet the line will get shorter.
 
Gordy :-)
  
  In a message dated 1/4/2008 10:46:19 A.M. Central Standard Time,  [EMAIL 
PROTECTED] writes:
 I agree    with you Jack, but I think the distance to the turnaround  
should be    even shorter, maybe 300ft

Buzz Averill

On Jan 1, 2008, at 8:48    PM, schrederman wrote:

>
> Well I posted this under Best    wishes for 2008... but not too many  
> looked
> at it... So    here goes :eek:
>
> For this year, I'd like to issue a challenge    to the soaring community.
> For 30 years, we've been launching as high    as possible, trying to stay
> aloft for 10 minutes, and coming down on a    spot, carrying a skeg that
> many times arrests on the line rather than    the ground. That gets old...
> in fact it got old a long time    ago...
>
> My challenge is to standardize the American TD winch,    including line
> strength, and to do away with landing skegs. I also    think the
> turnaround should be no more than 600' from the launch    point. Let's put
> some challenge back into this. Flame suit    ON!
>
> Jack (Darth) Womack
>
>
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