Hi, I use connectors from Digikey. These 4 pin connectors similar to the Deans but much longer. They are made by Waldom/Molex, are gold plated and .450" long on the male end. The other end is .172" for soldering. The receptacle is also gold plated. These connectors are very nice. See Digikey at: www.digikey.com <A HREF="http://www.digikey.com/DigiHome.html">Digi-Key Corporation </A> The part numbers are WM5004-ND for the male connector and WM2102-ND for the female receptacle. You can also see a good picture of the connectors at the Waldom/Molex site see: <A HREF="http://www.molex.com/scripts/productsearch.cgi?RT=BROWSE&FAM=wb&US=&IDL= 2803&SEQ=1&PRODUCT=2478,08xx01xx%3B+2139,09507xx1,+09503xx1+-+41661,+2648xxx1, +2651xxxx">Wire-to-Board Application</A> http://www.molex.com/scripts/productsearch.cgi?RT=BROWSE&FAM=wb&US=&IDL=2803&S EQ=1&PRODUCT=2478,08xx01xx%3B+2139,09507xx1,+09503xx1+-+41661,+2648xxx1,+2651x xxx Hope this helps, Tom RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]