Gordy, After all that convincing of "She who must be obeyed" and then you lay the blame for the bad weather on her? Balls, dude, very big balls... Hope this does not affect your future endeavors in the pursuit of great slope sites... BTW - what's your track record regarding bringing bad weather with you when you plan an excursion? Might be worth keeping up with, but might affect your invitation rate, so.... Good lift to you... Joe RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]