I stumbled on this site the other day and I think that it may be what you are looking for. http://www.charlesriverrc.org/fields_capecodslopes.htm I am looking forward to trying them myself. Jack W. Barnes, CNE Network Manager Shelburne Community School [EMAIL PROTECTED] RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]