www.graupner.com It looks like their site is improved. It looks like you can download the 2000 catalog. I didn't try it, my 1999 catalog is 862 pages, so if you get the whole thing I think my computer would die. Maybe one of you brave guys will download it and tell us how it works. Richard Shilling RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]