Hey Jeff & the rest, I attended the IHLG at Poway as an observer and was very impressed with the wing flinging method. These guyz seemed very accurate with there launch's and most threw very high. A fellow named Dick Barker (I hope I got the spelling and name correct) seemed to be throwing as high if not higher as Joe W. using a whole lot less physical energy to do so. We clocked Dick's side arm launch at 67.5 mph with Dave Wenzlick's radar gun. Wow very impressive. Some guys like the Austrian's had dimples in the wing tip to enable a better grip when throwing. They even had a rubber covering over the dimples that would pop back out after the release to help keep the airfoil as true as possible. A couple of planes also had a dowel stuck threw the wing tip for a really hardy grip and rip :-) I though I was gonna be bored watching and filming this event but as it turned out it was VERY entertaining. I'll still stick to slope flying but my respect level went way up for the pilots that compete in such a grueling and exciting event. A big thank you to the Torrey Pine Gull's and all the pilot's that let us stick a camera in yer face :-) Dave Reese Santa Cruz In a message dated 6/7/00 7:36:42 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << Been hearing more and more about this new launch method for HLG's. The launch height sounds great, but can you accurately place the plane in the part of the sky that you want, like you can with a traditional throw? >> RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]