My fanned Mongo Jr ended up a little under 4 lbs - not the best weightwise, but it is has a ducted fan on its back and has ten RC2000 to its Aveox 1114/4Y! And is bungee-proof through Cf rods embedded in the wings! First flight tomorrow! Yihaa! Tord, Sweden -- If reply difficulties - use [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tord S. Eriksson, Ovralidsg.25:5, S-422 47 Hisings Backa, Sweden RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]