How do they do it with subway cars? It's my understanding that when they put
on the brakes on a subway car, they're actually charging UP batteries by
using the motor as a generator.....wouldn't the motors just keep running
when connected to the batteries?

Matt
----- Original Message -----
From: "YK Chan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Richard Hallett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2000 12:39 AM
Subject: Re: [RCSE] brake/permanent magnet winch motor


> Your solenoid normally comes with single pointer and single terminal for
make
> and break action only, will require to change into single pointer and one
of
> two terminals. This will enable one of two mode operation. When solenoid
is
> energized, it will select the battery +ve, or when de-energized will
select a
> loading resistor. The other end of the resistor will be terminated to the
> motor -ve terminal (not the battery -ve terminal). In winch braking
application
> we want to drain the energy out of the spool as soon as possible and that
calls
> for highest possible of generator load (current) and therefore minimum
> resistance value should meet that demand. The minimum resistance, however,
> should not be any lower than the internal resistance in the winch battery
under
> load at zoom-launch. Eventually, we are talking resistance a copper wire
may
> provide, while a current rating of an solenoid that can handle about 500
amp.
>
> ROOT CAUSE:
> The other less apparent cause is in the winch line. When the line is
loaded up
> with enough stretch, it will "shoot" back at the spool more than a spool
can
> take, thus enabling chance for entanglement. A non-stretch line and/or a
> "giant" parachute should be considered. (However, that work against the
> stretching line principle) A mechanically correct view is to omit the
braking
> assembly, instead, letting it free wheel after zoom and at the same time
effect
> drag in the winch line (starting from) in front of the spool through the
> turn-around .... and up the O-ring end. That should address the problem at
the
> source. The number of ways to implement that is limited by our
imagination.
> Hope some of us will take it as an interesting new project. So keep us
update
> on your progress.
> YK Chan
> Seattle area.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Richard Hallett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2000 8:57 AM
> Subject: [RCSE] brake/permanent magnet winch motor
>
>
> > How do you make an electronic brake work on a permanent magnet winch
motor.
> >
> > Some how or other you are supposed to turn it into a generator and run
it
> > into a heavy load.
> >
> > Thankyou.
> >
> > Rick
> >
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