Why not get all the details and some photos and forward it to the USA National News media, I mean, its soo important to protect us poor little non-thinking lambs from ourselves, then possibly all flying site owners will be more aware of how dangerous our hobby can be, and all you well meaning safey buffs can sleep well knowing you have saved us from such a terrible thing happening to our 16 year olds. Sometimes the best thing to say is as little as possible. If you guys just can't live with yourselves without sharing well meant safety stuff, why not leave off the exciting bloody part and just say its a really good idea to make sure stakes are secure against possible unsafe pull outs? Some how most of us modelers have muddled through life with out the help of you really smart guys. We drive cars, have kids, maintain jobs and even on occassion build and fly RC sailplanes. Over the years there have been fatal accidents that none of you in the hobby have heard of....and neither has flying site owners. Saturday is supposed to be a nice soaring day in Atlanta, and Cobra Stu is in town today, I am hoping to con him into buying me lunch :-) You can bet I will mention STEAK :-) Chute, it's time to go to work... Gordy In Atlanta this weekend << Well, I've read about it last month(a few weeks before Karlton put the starting message on the list) in at least two (maybe three) British R/C Magazines. I'm at my work now, but I'll look it up this evening and give more specifics. RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]