There's a new Whipper Whiz Hop-Ups page with some info from Tom Broesky and John O'Sullivan, including some pictures of the hot-rodded Whiz's they've used for record flights. Hmmm. Maybe if I build one with dual fins I could post about this on the RC Jets list (F15 Whiz?). http://www.charlesriverrc.org/articles.htm is our Articles & Tips index - the Whipper Whiz "home page" is in the list of On-Line plans in the left column. Regards and happy flying, Joel P.S. Maybe we should have a separate category for the "real kids", since it doesn't seem they'd stand a chance against the likes of the top "big kids" competitors? RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]