As a lot of you know Karlton is running a photo contest. I just took a look and the two top pictures are helicopters!! Yuk!!! Come on soaring guys. Vote for some glider pictures, even if you don't vote for mine. ;-)) Oh yea, the link is: http://www.multiplexrc.com/contest_air.htm Randy Bullard RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]