Hello, I'm closer to finishing my Bird of Time with spoilers actuated by wing servo's (thanks again for all your building tips. Should have it ready by Easter. Yesterday I had my first experience with winch launches and F3B flying with an, I think, english design called Cobra. Also, browsing through the german "Aufwind" magazine, I read a test about EMC-Vega's Harmony, which was described as a sports, allround F3B/F3J glider suitable for sports pilots as well as competition pilots. Is there such thing as a "sports" F3B/F3J glider? Does anyone have an experience with the EMC-Vega Harmony? Any other glider which could be considered a "sports" F3B/F3J glider? Also, does anybody know about a forum like RCSE in Europe (Germany)? TIA, Alex Janssen __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices. http://auctions.yahoo.com/ RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED]