Excellent stuff here guys!  Thanks to Oleg for the original question and
thanks to the rest for the really informative discussion.

Rick Van Clief


----- Original Message -----
From: Mark Drela <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 12:42 PM
Subject: Re: [RCSE] Aerodynamic washout


>
> >Generally speaking any type of washout is not the ideal approach.
> >Washout is used to compensate for bad planform design.
>
> I have to disagree here.  For a given tip stall margin,
> a slight amount of washout (1 degree or so) allows using
> a stronger taper.  More taper has all sorts of advantages
> for structure, inertia, wetted area, and low-speed induced drag.
>
> The tradeoff strongly depends on the type of glider.
> On a RES ship the importance of low yaw inertia is overwhelming,
> and the significant washout/taper combo is very attractive.
> An F3B must do very well in the speed run at near-zero CL,
> and little or no washout is more important.  A TD aileron glider
> is somewhere in between, but closer to the RES case I suspect.
>
> And washout doesn't automatically kill penetration.  It's just
> necessary to make sure that the tips stay in the drag bucket
> at the highest design speed.  This is quite doable, especially
> on a poly wing where the tip's dCL/dAlpha is effectively
> reduced by 5-10% by the local dihedral angle.
>
>
> >With any type of washout you are only optimized for 1 condition.
> >If you fly faster or slower than that optimum condition you will
> >pay a penalty in efficiency.
>
> Having "optimum efficiency" sounds nice, but it's not the bottom line.
> The bottom line is L/D at some given speed, or just sink speed.
> With 1 degree of washout, the span efficiency at high speed,
> maybe CL=0.05, might be down to 50% or whatever.  But induced
> drag is less than 1% of the total at this speed, so you're paying
> a measly 0.5% overall drag penalty from the "horribly non-optimum"
> spanwise loading.  But the washout allows you to taper the wing more,
> and the drag reduction from reduced wetted area (i.e. increased loading)
> can easily overcome this penalty and then some.  And again, the main
> requirement is that every spanwise station (the tips in particular)
> is in its drag bucket in this high speed condition.
>
> - Mark
>
>
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