On Sat, 29 Dec 2001, Marc Gellart wrote:

> converge.  Airliners all look alike now, 2 engines etc; 

Except for those with 4 engines.  And winglets.  And engines on the
tail/inboard/combo.

> sailplanes all have swept leading edges, t-tails, etc.

Except for those with V tails or cross tails.

> The canard is a feasable concept, but
> for a certain goals does not result in the most effecient ship, maybe safer
> under certain conditions, but even then they are not a total fix (they may
> not stall in the typical sense, but they can sure fall from the sky under
> the right circumstance).  The Starship was a great concept, and one cool
> looking airplane, but the Kingaire for the money was a much more "feasable"
> answer for most.  Technical evolution, the market, and consumer tastes are
> tough task masters and the canard just did not quite make the grade in the
> game.


So you're saying that the Viggen and Eurofighter are no good and behind
the times?

No, no, this nut ain't yet cracked.  And when it is, I'll have to find a
new art.

-J


> Marc
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: glidergeek [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 11:55 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [RCSE] Canards-- what a canard!!!
> 
> 
> Okay, all you aero junkies:
> 
> When I was a kid, Burt Rutan was everybody's hero, and the canard
> planform was the answer to everyone's quest for maximum efficiency.
> You know the argument, the canard up front has a lifting force in the
> upward direction, and the wing also has a lifting force in the upward
> direction, where a conventional stabilizer back at the tail must
> endure an efficiency-consuming download to counter the lift/weight
> couple.  Canards resist the stall because the forward 'wing' stalls
> before the main wing can stall, the downwash from the forward 'wing'
> induces just the right downward flow for the upward swing into the
> leading edge of the main wing, etc., etc.
> 
> So, WHERE ARE ALL THE CANARDS????  Why do all the World Class
> sailplanes with a glide ratio of close to 60 to 1 have conventional
> tails?  Why do all the pylon racers at Reno have a conventional
> tail?  Why do all the corporate jets and fighter planes and RPVs and
> bush planes and flying boats and puddlejumpers and just-about-
> everything-else all have conventional tails?
> 
> The Rutan Vari-Eze was supposed to be the shape of things to come.
> In the years since, the Beech Starship has fallen into ignonimity and
> the Solitaire is a relic of the fanciful notions of the past.  WHERE
> ARE ALL THE CANARDS???
> 
> Don't even get me started on flying wings!
> 
> Don Bailey
> Snohomish WA
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