<<I cant argue with that, but why is it time and again
my 58-60 oz plane 
starting in the very bottom of a gaggle of sailplanes,
including 
heavier molded, will climb through them?  Just
wondering, Walter

Hmmmm - How is it my 90 ounce models "starting in the
very bottom of a gaggle of sailplanes...will climb
through them?"   ;-)

D

Honestly, I can't recall being climbed through fun
flying or in a contest when I was heavy. (Unless I was
flying avoidance)

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