I'm not sure what input Fred has in this matter.  He is not manufacturing
the rec's, I think they are being fabricated elsewhere.  Retooling may not
really be an option for this design at this point.

Hopefully, he is looking at maybe an 8 or nine channel rec for the future
using similar technology and maybe our input could be used in the design f
the next generation.

I noticed 'end' plugs a several years back when I bought my 'new' radio
(JR-642).  I had seen Futaba and others with their top plugs, but I
typically like small models, and the JR R-600 rec looked real nice and
small.  That was more influence on my purchase then any other.  I felt
that any major brand radio would be functional, reliable and fairly easy
to use.  But the smaller rec would fit my models better. Thus I am a JR
shop.

I hope that Fred will ultimately accept the input from users (both
current and potential) when working on future projects.

.........bc    ([EMAIL PROTECTED]

       http://www.widomaker.com/~conk
Williamsburg, VA 23185


On Mon, 19 Aug 2002, John Erickson wrote:

> Gents,
>
> I understand that it is hard to re-tool a design.  The manufacturer thinks
> about this before starting production.  That being said, for the uses of a
> small, dual conversion receiver, I can only think of small fuselages and an
> end plug is the way to go.  The top plug uses up about 1/2" of space and
> there is always a kink in the wiring.
>
> The end plugs on a receiver like the Hitec SuperSlim are a fine design for
> minimal fuselage planes.
>
> JE
> --
> Erickson Architects
> John R. Erickson, AIA
>
>
> > From: "Ed Berris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2002 14:40:59 -0700
> > To: "Fred Marks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Subject: [RCSE] Re: M5 end pins or not
> >
> > Fred, you have addressed the "G" connector but that's not what the
> > conversation was about.  My e-mail to you was about the demeaning and angry
> > reply to a customers' input. This note just amplifies that.
> >
> > What I was trying to do by asking your customers for their input on what
> > they would like to see was to give you some information that I thought might
> > encourage you to offer this option.
> >
> > Instead you have chosen a rather combative response.  Very strange.  Don't
> > you care what your customers would like to have from you?
> >
> > What a shame that you have chosen  to be so closed minded and angry
> > sounding.  Perhaps a better response might have been to consider what you
> > are hearing.  If for some reason it is not feasible,  you could always just
> > say thanks for your input.  In that way you wouldn't sound so offensive and
> > you would make a better impression on the very people that have helped make
> > you successful.
> >
> > Think about it.
> >
> > Ed
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Fred Marks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "Ed Berris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Monday, August 19, 2002 11:31 AM
> > Subject: Re: M5 end pins or not
> >
> >
> >> Ed,
> >>     If you think uit is practical to have evry manufaturer revert to the
> > old
> >> *G connector, we do have a difference of opinion.   We have always been
> > very
> >> responsive toour customers and I resent the implication that we are not.
> >> Fred
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Ed Berris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> Sent: Monday, August 19, 2002 1:57 PM
> >> Subject: M5 end pins or not
> >>
> >>
> >>> Fred, I'll continue to send the posts that I have been receiving so that
> >> you
> >>> can see for yourself what your customers would like but I must admit
> > that
> >> a
> >>> couple of the replies that I have seen from you seem to suggest you
> > really
> >>> don't care what customers would like to see.  Maybe I misread your
> >> response
> >>> regarding Mark Miller's suggestion but it had a rather sarcastic ring to
> >> it
> >>> when you  responded by saying:
> >>>
> >>> "And a 4th, impractical, one."
> >>>
> >>> You credited someone that agreed with the idea of top load plugs as
> > being
> >>> "Smart"
> >>>
> >>> So let's see if I get this.  If someone agrees with you they are smart?
> >>> But, if they don't then they are idiots?  Is that about right, Fred?
> >>>
> >>> I don't know, but I was lucky enough to own and operate two very
> >> successful
> >>> companies.  A good part of our success came from politely listening to
> > my
> >>> customers.  Smug or sarcastic replies just never seemed to go over very
> >>> well.
> >>>
> >>> How about keeping an open mind?
> >>>
> >>> Ed
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >
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