Joe,
check out http://xcsoaring.com/, I think that they have some articles on it.
You're right way kool, but I suspect that the equipment is bigger than our 
contest airplanes will allow.
Jack


At 08:00 AM 8/20/2002 -0500, you wrote:
>Jim B.,
>
>Thanks for posting that excel file!  That was just what I needed to 
>convince me to order a LoLo.  It was really interesting to see the rounds 
>in this format and dude that was some really fine flying.  Looked like 
>rounds 4 and 5 were in some really tough air, but a 10 minute sled ride? 
>Pretty impressive stuff!  Do you think a GPS system could be developed 
>that would be able to download data that would let you see the flight in 
>3D?  That would be too cool!!!
>
>Therms,
>
>Joe
>
>----Original Message Follows----
>From: "James V. Bacus" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "RCSE" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>CC: Jack Strother <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: [RCSE]  DARTS contest
>Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2002 22:05:55 -0500
>
>I recorded both days of the DARTS contest on the LoLo logger, but below is 
>a link to an Excel workbook (approx. 3mb in size) of just the five rounds 
>flown on Sunday, the better of my two contest days.  This is using the 
>latest LoLo software that has a few more stats in it.
>
>ftp://66.106.109.240/pub/DARTS_MoM_081902.xls
>
>I am still a little surprised and examining the data, I knew the air was 
>tough but jeez, I never got above launch height on any flight, and I did 
>max one of those 13 minute rounds where I flew to the limits of my vision 
>downwind, but obviously it wasn't very high.  I hit a 710 ft launch in one 
>round, I wish my launches were a bit more consistent, we were being 
>assigned to different winches on each round, but the variation is probably 
>more due to conditions.
>
>Jim
>
>
>
>At 07:13 PM 8/19/2002, James V. Bacus wrote:
>>Maybe the lack of attendance was due to weather, there are usually about 
>>10 more guys at this contest, but too bad for them because this was an 
>>exciting one.
>>
>>You see, sunny and calm and all good air makes for a nice day out, but 
>>does not test the pilots flying and air reading skills much.  Take some 
>>marginal weather, add a little wind, then use a seeded man on man format 
>>preferably with rounds just long enough that most people can't max them 
>>and the game gets very interesting.  This was what it was all about last 
>>weekend and it was some of the most competitive flying I have experienced 
>>this year.
>>
>>It's in conditions like this you see pilots have to make tough decisions 
>>in a rapid fashion, make "hero or zero" moves, and make saves and extend 
>>flights in exciting ways.  It's in conditions like this that pilots can 
>>"bury" the flight group by being the guy that can use his wisdom, skills 
>>or strategy to stay up a few minutes longer than the rest of the guys in 
>>the flight group.  And there was some burying being dished up Dayton 
>>style, a dish served cold.  But with five rounds flown each day, there 
>>was enough opportunities to either serve that dish, or eat it, even in 
>>the same day.
>>
>>Thanks to Bob Massmann CD, Jerry Shape CD and the entire DARTS club for 
>>hosting a straight up good time contest in a seeded MoM format.  The 
>>DARTS club field is a very nice field to contest from, they have a 
>>shelter to provide shade and yuk, rain protection if needed.  They have 
>>seven strong real balls winches with all the equipment to do the MoM 
>>format in style.
>>
>>Hats off to all the pilots this weekend, that was some awesome flying 
>>guys, that's what it is all about.
>>
>>Jim
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>At 05:39 PM 8/19/2002, Shape wrote:
>>>Thanks for the kind words Jack. If I do say so myself, Sunday was one of the
>>>more interresting contests I have attended or CD. Wild scoring changes all
>>>day. One why to make it a fliers contest is to make the tasks for difficult.
>>>I don't have the sheets in front of me but I don't think there was more than
>>>8 maxes in the 13 min rounds, but the level of competion was outstanding.
>>>Jerry Shape
>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>From: "Jack Strother" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>To: "Steve Meyer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>Cc: "RCSE" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>Sent: Sunday, August 18, 2002 1:04 PM
>>>Subject: Re: [RCSE] DARTS contest
>>>
>>>
>>> > The D.A.R.T.S. contest had 18-19 contestants per day.
>>> > Not enough for a Level V contest, either day. 8-)
>>> > Its a shame that local support for this fine seeded Man On Man contest is
>>> > waning.
>>> > The Darts have been doing this contest for years.
>>> > Day one was hosted by CD Bob Massmann with 8 minute tasks all day,
>>> > Winds gusting to 20 mph from the south, most of the day kept your game
>>> > tight. Thermals, if any, were tight and fast.
>>> > Most tried sloping on the tree lines, Paul Siegle has left his Zenith in
>>> > the top of one of the biggest trees.
>>> > The S.O.A.R. was well represented by Jim Bacus, Tom Kallevang, and Jack
>>> > Strother
>>> > 1st - Jack Strother
>>> > 2nd - Don Harris
>>> > 3rd -Tom Kallevang ( I think)
>>> > 4th - Jim Bacus
>>> > 5th - I forgot.
>>> >
>>> > Day 2 was hosted by CD Jerry Shape, who was inspired by his attendance to
>>> > the Chicago Fred eariler this year.
>>> >   started the day off with a 10 minute task, three 13 minute tasks and
>>> > another 10 minute task to finish up.
>>> > The winds were WSW and variable. total overcast day with storms 
>>> looming to
>>> > the south and east.
>>> > A very interesting day, where you had better know your machine.
>>> > A true test as to wether, its the plane, the pilot or the radio that wind
>>> > the contest.
>>> > I watched guys circle in light thermals that may have got them 50 feet in
>>>4
>>> > minutes...maybe...and that may have been the best lift all day.
>>> > Very few got the 13 minute target time. but, a few, a very few did get
>>>away.
>>> > A really good contest day, with no gimmies.!!
>>> > 1st - Jim Bacus
>>> > 2nd -
>>> > 3rd -
>>> > 4th -
>>> > 5th -
>>> >
>>> > I am sorry I do not remember the rest of the places, so rather than 
>>> guess,
>>> > I am sure that the results will be posted soon, but TK is in there around
>>> > 2nd or 3rd.
>>> > Me, well I flew a good contest, but not good enough. 8-(
>>> > This was also an OVSS contest, whi\ch I am sure has been shaken up a
>>>little .
>>> >
>>> > Karl ( I am off my game) Miller, spent the day recovering from pop-offs.
>>> >
>>> > Next weekend will be the 2-day in Lexington, KY. 3 classes both days .
>>> > see you all there.
>>> > Jack
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > At 07:44 PM 8/18/2002 -0500, Steve Meyer wrote:
>>> > >Anybody have results or contest comments?
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >At 10:12 PM 8/14/2002 -0400, Shape wrote:
>>> > >>Just a reminder to all in the Mid west that the Dayton Ohio DARTS is
>>>holding
>>> > >>our last big contest of the year this Sat and Sun. Both days will be
>>>seeded
>>> > >>Man on Man. Bob Massmann will CD Sat and I will do Sun. The DARTS have
>>>seven
>>> > >>winches all with Real Balls. Sat and Sun will be our OVSS contest and
>>>Sun
>>> > >>will also be the wrap up to this years Ohio Cup. Come to Dayton this
>>>weekend
>>> > >>and fly where Man on Man contests started.
>>> > >>
>>> > >>Jerry Shape
>>> > >>http://www.daytonsoaring.org
>>> > >
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>>Jim
>>Downers Grove, IL
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