Joe, check out http://xcsoaring.com/, I think that they have some articles on it. You're right way kool, but I suspect that the equipment is bigger than our contest airplanes will allow. Jack
At 08:00 AM 8/20/2002 -0500, you wrote: >Jim B., > >Thanks for posting that excel file! That was just what I needed to >convince me to order a LoLo. It was really interesting to see the rounds >in this format and dude that was some really fine flying. Looked like >rounds 4 and 5 were in some really tough air, but a 10 minute sled ride? >Pretty impressive stuff! Do you think a GPS system could be developed >that would be able to download data that would let you see the flight in >3D? That would be too cool!!! > >Therms, > >Joe > >----Original Message Follows---- >From: "James V. Bacus" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "RCSE" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >CC: Jack Strother <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Subject: Re: [RCSE] DARTS contest >Date: Mon, 19 Aug 2002 22:05:55 -0500 > >I recorded both days of the DARTS contest on the LoLo logger, but below is >a link to an Excel workbook (approx. 3mb in size) of just the five rounds >flown on Sunday, the better of my two contest days. This is using the >latest LoLo software that has a few more stats in it. > >ftp://66.106.109.240/pub/DARTS_MoM_081902.xls > >I am still a little surprised and examining the data, I knew the air was >tough but jeez, I never got above launch height on any flight, and I did >max one of those 13 minute rounds where I flew to the limits of my vision >downwind, but obviously it wasn't very high. I hit a 710 ft launch in one >round, I wish my launches were a bit more consistent, we were being >assigned to different winches on each round, but the variation is probably >more due to conditions. > >Jim > > > >At 07:13 PM 8/19/2002, James V. Bacus wrote: >>Maybe the lack of attendance was due to weather, there are usually about >>10 more guys at this contest, but too bad for them because this was an >>exciting one. >> >>You see, sunny and calm and all good air makes for a nice day out, but >>does not test the pilots flying and air reading skills much. Take some >>marginal weather, add a little wind, then use a seeded man on man format >>preferably with rounds just long enough that most people can't max them >>and the game gets very interesting. This was what it was all about last >>weekend and it was some of the most competitive flying I have experienced >>this year. >> >>It's in conditions like this you see pilots have to make tough decisions >>in a rapid fashion, make "hero or zero" moves, and make saves and extend >>flights in exciting ways. It's in conditions like this that pilots can >>"bury" the flight group by being the guy that can use his wisdom, skills >>or strategy to stay up a few minutes longer than the rest of the guys in >>the flight group. And there was some burying being dished up Dayton >>style, a dish served cold. But with five rounds flown each day, there >>was enough opportunities to either serve that dish, or eat it, even in >>the same day. >> >>Thanks to Bob Massmann CD, Jerry Shape CD and the entire DARTS club for >>hosting a straight up good time contest in a seeded MoM format. The >>DARTS club field is a very nice field to contest from, they have a >>shelter to provide shade and yuk, rain protection if needed. They have >>seven strong real balls winches with all the equipment to do the MoM >>format in style. >> >>Hats off to all the pilots this weekend, that was some awesome flying >>guys, that's what it is all about. >> >>Jim >> >> >> >> >>At 05:39 PM 8/19/2002, Shape wrote: >>>Thanks for the kind words Jack. If I do say so myself, Sunday was one of the >>>more interresting contests I have attended or CD. Wild scoring changes all >>>day. One why to make it a fliers contest is to make the tasks for difficult. >>>I don't have the sheets in front of me but I don't think there was more than >>>8 maxes in the 13 min rounds, but the level of competion was outstanding. >>>Jerry Shape >>>----- Original Message ----- >>>From: "Jack Strother" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>To: "Steve Meyer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>Cc: "RCSE" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>Sent: Sunday, August 18, 2002 1:04 PM >>>Subject: Re: [RCSE] DARTS contest >>> >>> >>> > The D.A.R.T.S. contest had 18-19 contestants per day. >>> > Not enough for a Level V contest, either day. 8-) >>> > Its a shame that local support for this fine seeded Man On Man contest is >>> > waning. >>> > The Darts have been doing this contest for years. >>> > Day one was hosted by CD Bob Massmann with 8 minute tasks all day, >>> > Winds gusting to 20 mph from the south, most of the day kept your game >>> > tight. Thermals, if any, were tight and fast. >>> > Most tried sloping on the tree lines, Paul Siegle has left his Zenith in >>> > the top of one of the biggest trees. >>> > The S.O.A.R. was well represented by Jim Bacus, Tom Kallevang, and Jack >>> > Strother >>> > 1st - Jack Strother >>> > 2nd - Don Harris >>> > 3rd -Tom Kallevang ( I think) >>> > 4th - Jim Bacus >>> > 5th - I forgot. >>> > >>> > Day 2 was hosted by CD Jerry Shape, who was inspired by his attendance to >>> > the Chicago Fred eariler this year. >>> > started the day off with a 10 minute task, three 13 minute tasks and >>> > another 10 minute task to finish up. >>> > The winds were WSW and variable. total overcast day with storms >>> looming to >>> > the south and east. >>> > A very interesting day, where you had better know your machine. >>> > A true test as to wether, its the plane, the pilot or the radio that wind >>> > the contest. >>> > I watched guys circle in light thermals that may have got them 50 feet in >>>4 >>> > minutes...maybe...and that may have been the best lift all day. >>> > Very few got the 13 minute target time. but, a few, a very few did get >>>away. >>> > A really good contest day, with no gimmies.!! >>> > 1st - Jim Bacus >>> > 2nd - >>> > 3rd - >>> > 4th - >>> > 5th - >>> > >>> > I am sorry I do not remember the rest of the places, so rather than >>> guess, >>> > I am sure that the results will be posted soon, but TK is in there around >>> > 2nd or 3rd. >>> > Me, well I flew a good contest, but not good enough. 8-( >>> > This was also an OVSS contest, whi\ch I am sure has been shaken up a >>>little . >>> > >>> > Karl ( I am off my game) Miller, spent the day recovering from pop-offs. >>> > >>> > Next weekend will be the 2-day in Lexington, KY. 3 classes both days . >>> > see you all there. >>> > Jack >>> > >>> > >>> > At 07:44 PM 8/18/2002 -0500, Steve Meyer wrote: >>> > >Anybody have results or contest comments? >>> > > >>> > > >>> > >At 10:12 PM 8/14/2002 -0400, Shape wrote: >>> > >>Just a reminder to all in the Mid west that the Dayton Ohio DARTS is >>>holding >>> > >>our last big contest of the year this Sat and Sun. Both days will be >>>seeded >>> > >>Man on Man. Bob Massmann will CD Sat and I will do Sun. The DARTS have >>>seven >>> > >>winches all with Real Balls. Sat and Sun will be our OVSS contest and >>>Sun >>> > >>will also be the wrap up to this years Ohio Cup. Come to Dayton this >>>weekend >>> > >>and fly where Man on Man contests started. >>> > >> >>> > >>Jerry Shape >>> > >>http://www.daytonsoaring.org >>> > > >>> > >RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" >>> > >and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> > >>> > Jack Strother LSF President >>> > Loveland, OH LSF 2948 >>> > >>> > >>> > RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. Send "subscribe" >>>and "unsubscribe" requests to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> > >>> >>>RCSE-List facilities provided by Model Airplane News. 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