I'm just conjecturing but maybe we're in a "gray" area at this time and the
government has yet place us "officially" under their jurisdiction (FAA)?
Under the banner of "national security", etc the government can and probably
would start considering our hobby...Not a good thing for us. I don't know
but as someone else stated, you have to pick your battle and this might not
be a good to pick.

-----Original Message-----
From: Ben Diss [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, August 27, 2004 10:43 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: 'Kevin Sheen'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [RCSE] TFR - 8/27/04


Sheldon-

This section does not appear ANYWHERE in the TFR.  While I agree that
the TFR does contain the words "model aircraft" I fail to see why the
AMA doesn't want us to fly.

-Ben



Sheldon - YNT uDesign wrote:

> Sure looks like it DOES to me! Thanks for posting the pertinent section
> Kevin!
>
>     -----Original Message-----
>     From: Kevin Sheen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>     Sent: Friday, August 27, 2004 9:48 PM
>     To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>     Subject: Re: [RCSE] TFR - 8/27/04
>
>     Really??
>
>     Other Unauthorized Operations:  The following aeronautical
>     operations are not authorized within the New York Class B Airspace
>     LGA 20 NM, JFK 20 NM, and EWR 20 NM boundaries, up to but not
>     including FL 180: flight training, practice instrument approaches,
>     aerobatic flight, glider operations, parachute operations,
>     ultralight, hang gliding, balloon operations, agriculture/crop
>     dusting, fish spotters, animal population control flight operations,
>     banner towing operations, utility line/pipeline inspection flights,
>     Part 101 operations, model aircraft operations, model rocketry,
>     remotely operated aircraft, unmanned aerial vehicles and commercial
>     cargo carrier operations that fail to comply with their TSA approved
>     security program.
>
>
>
>
>
>     Kevin
>
>
>     At 08:18 PM 8/27/2004 -0400, you wrote:
>
>>     Wow.  Once again AMA hasn't a clue.  This TFR DOES NOT restrict
>>     model airplane flying.  It doesn't even mentioni t.
>>
>>     -Ben
>>
>>     Steve Siebenaler wrote:
>>
>>>     Posted today on the AMA Web Site...
>>>     Notice to AMA members, especially those residing or operating
>>>     their model aircraft within 20 Nautical Miles (NM) of JFK, La
>>>     Guardia, and Newark airports.
>>>     The Federal Aviation Administration has established Temporary
>>>     Flight Restrictions (TFR) for the areas mentioned above. There
>>>     will be no model aircraft operations allowed to take place within
>>>     these restricted areas.
>>>     This TFR will begin at 7:00 p.m. local time on September 1, 2004,
>>>     and continue to 6:59 am local time on September 3, 2004.
>>>
>>>     We are sharing this information for the purpose of advising our
>>>     members of the serious nature of this TFR and urging all to
>>>     cooperate by abiding by the rules as stated.
>>>     For a complete description off the TFR click
>>>     www.faa.gov/Newsroom/highlights/rnc_fa.htm
>>>     <http://www.faa.gov/Newsroom/highlights/rnc_fa.htm>
>>>     <http://www.faa.gov/Newsroom/highlights/rnc_fa.htm>
>>>     We strongly encourage all members to be cooperative and
>>>     understanding these times of special national security concerns
>>>     and as always, if you should have additional questions please
>>>     contact Jay Mealy. <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>
>>>     Steve Siebenaler
>>>     Cincinnati, Ohio  USA
>>
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