It sounds very much like you are dealing with pager and/or industrial radio
control interference. About the only way to track down the source(s) is to
use a programmable scanner hooked to a PC with appropriate software, a
uni-directional antenna, a directional antenna, and invest a bunch of time
monitoring. Then when you detect a signal in your band you know what
frequency and strength the signal is, and if you are quick (!), you can
establish the direction the signal is coming from.

A few years ago we had a similar intermittent problem at our club field, and
being lucky enough to have a retired scientist and Ham as a member, who was
also well-equipped with monitoring equipment, we set out to track down the
source. We were able to determine it was a high-powered pager tower a couple
of miles away (line of sight) and above us, aimed down into our area. We
ended up banning one channel and giving warnings on the adjacent 2 channels,
and our problems were reduced to "noise level".

FYI..

Bruce DeVisser



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Howard Mark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, October 22, 2004 1:26 PM
Subject: [RCSE] Pager? Interference


At one field I fly at often, we've had problems with interference since the
facility was opened 3 years ago.
JR receivers seem to have the biggest issues. I believe the early 700's
(could be 600's) were worst. I've heard JR has updated the receiver to fix
the issues. I mention JR only as information and NOT as a slam. Many of the
guys that had problems with JR gear have replaced the receivers with RCD and
have had no more big issues.
A couple of weeks ago I (ch32) was aerotowing a friend's (Jon) sailplane. He
got hit shortly after takeoff (ch44) and also just before landing - causing
him to damage a beautiful sailplane. Jon was flying Airtronics gear (Stylus)
PPM. Just a few minutes later a pilot flying a 1/3 scale 3D plane with JR
PCM reported that he'd had a lot of hits. Turns out he didn't know if the
interference was caused by his ignition, setup.... Or if it was coming from
some other source. I witnessed several uneventful flights so I figured it
was safe to fly. I fired up my trusty Skybolt and wrung it out for a few
minutes. I thought I had a minor hit once - just before the thing dove
straight into the ground - full throttle - from about 200 feet. The model
exploded and was a total write-off. I've flown this model at the same
facility dozens of times before without a problem. I used an Airtronics 660
/ RCD 535 in the Skybolt. Of course a frequency scanner showed that my
frequency was clean AFTER the wreck.

Club members have tried in vain to find the source of the interference. I
had not had many problems before I lost the Skybolt - a few glitches that
last a second or so - and those are rare. But once Bob Vixie came out to fly
there and his Tiger II went wacko on approach. It dove straight at the
ground rolling - full throttle, pulled out inverted at about 3 feet and
rolled back upright and cut the throttle - all on it's own before giving
control back to Bob. Bob was so shaken that he shoved the radio at me and
said "Here - YOU land it!". Bob had the susceptible gear in his plane.

Now to my question. Is it possible that this is pager interference? I've
downloaded the coordinates of pager antennas from the FCC and plotted them.
Connecting the dots by company reveals three possible sources. Of course I
don't know if these are pager repeaters or not. Is it POSSIBLE that our
field is in the path of a high-powered pager repeater - and that this could
be the source of our interference? Our field is on the high plains just east
of the foothills near Denver. The pager antennas are located in the
foothills above - and in the plains to the east below. A hi-gain antenna
(yagi...) will still probably have a beam width wide enough to cause a
problem for anything close to the centerline of it's path. I've read that
repeaters can use 300W of power!

Any info that anyone can supply would be appreciated!!! - but please facts
and NOT just opinions.

Mark


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