To quote Litco Systems directly from their manual for the Alpha 4 charger:

PLEASE NOTE: ALL DEVICES ON A-4 EXCEPT "W" DEVICE ARE INTENDED FOR NI-CADS.
ONLY "V" AND "W" DEVICES MAY BE USED WITH WET AND GEL CELLS (LEAD-ACID
BATTERIES). ALL DEVICES EXCEPT "A","S"& "W" ARE SUITABLE FOR NIMH BATTERIES
(NICKEL-METAL-HYDRIDE). TO BE ON THE SAFE SIDE USE ONLY "I" AND "C" CHARGER
WITH NIMH CELLS.

:-)  *smile*

Cameron

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Date: Tue,  9 Nov 2004 11:43:28 -0800
From: Simon Van Leeuwen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: "[EMAIL PROTECTED] com" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [RCSE] Battery food-Charger
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

That's the probelm with employing a NiCD charger that peak-detects for NiCD 
instead of NiMH. NiMH are endomthermic, while NiCD technology is exothermic.

This means as an NiCD becomes fully charged, the increase in heat causes an 
increase in internal resistance, which lowers the charge V, which trips the 
peak-detect circuitry.

Efficient cells like the KAN's do not induce a voltage depression adequate 
enough to trip the peak-detect, so the charger keeps pumping in the current.

NiCD chargers are great at ruining perfectly good NiMH cells. Then the cells

get blamed for poor performance... 



Quoting Regis White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> 
> 
> I bought an Alpha 4 about six or seven years ago and have been quite
> happy with it.  But (there is always a but) it did not have a
> separate discharge function - it only cycled (once).  NiCads like to
> be left discharged I have been led to believe.  Ni-MH on the other
> hand like to be fully charged - and can be harmed if fully
> discharged.  So I have replaced most of my NiCads.  What I learned
> was that I could not safely charge them on the Alpha 4 'Peak'
> function or even the 'c/10' function - only the 'Fast charge'
> function.  Recently I acquired two KAN Ni-MH 7 cell packs and was
> surprised to find that the Alpha 4 could not automatic charge them
> safely - they got very hot.  Since both packs got very hot, I suspect
> the KAN cells are just not compatible with Alpha 4 technology (which
> is easily 20 years old).  (I mean we can plug in a cell phone to
> charge and just forget it.)   Is there something about the KAN type
> cells that are different or is this an anomaly?  Regis
> 
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