I think (who knows for sure other then Glenn) John has it about right
and it is a shame. I will keep my 4000 until it is no longer usable.
Programing is now not the chore it once was and had become almost fast
and automatic once you learn the language.

Some things are classic and never go out of style to the "believers"
but even us will have to change to a new box someday when Hitec gives
up supporting us. Germany did the mechanicals well and clearly thought
modelers were a technical lot and could figure out what they wanted
for their own programs to fly their own planes. May have been true 10
years ago, especially in Eroupe but in the good old USA our mindset is
buy-it, turn-it-on, use-it for all forms of technology (not a bad
thing, just different).

Hell, I used to build my own radios just to lean, can not consieve of
rolling my own now.

Jack

On Sun, 13 Mar 2005 11:59:38 -0500, John Derstine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Well, obviously you have " profi religion" and faith that Ernie won't
> retire, or decide not to repair radios in his spare time.
>  Personally I will stick with a major distributor who supports their
> product with a trained staff of 6 or more full time techs and field
> support by all the JR team members, and factory support personnel.
> Granted you can't expect the personal touch, but look at the volume
> difference, One or two vs many radio turn arounds.
> If they are so good, you have to wonder why you see so many Profi's for
> sale used these days? Are there owners buying new ones? Where?
> Turn around is fair play :-)
> 
> Hey apples to apples, new price to new. The used radio market is another
> thing entirely.
> 
> The profi is an excellent radio, no argument, once the king (in Europe
> especially for large scale sailplanes), with factory support, on going
> development, but face the facts, that has come to an end as far as
> future development of the profi is concerned. The Hitec future may hold
> another multi channel radio in development, but it will look like all
> the other Asian offerings.(EVO) The new, albiet overpriced Futaba 14
> channel has what looks like the future in hand, JR will follow with one
> of their own no doubt, hopefully with a tad bit more function than
> glitz. Who want mp3's on their transmitter?
> 
> Look at the market. Germany has 25% unemployment, no one is buying high
> priced stuff but the elite flyers. The hobby shops are going out of
> business over there. No one is going to develop a radio for a handful of
> Germans, Swiss and, Austrians. My assumption is they will support the
> German market for a while, and supply the U.S. connoisseur willing to
> pay
> $1000.00 for a transmitter, special order. Even here we are aging,
> willing to spend more and we want to do less, not build planes, not
> program radios, etc. The average age for modelers is 50 something. The
> dollar is in the dumpster against the Euro, so who, ultimately, is going
> to make radios in Germany for the U.S. market? Enjoy your profis while
> they last. Long live Ernie!!
> 
> JD
> 
> Endless Mountain Models
> http://www.scalesoaring.com
> email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Steve Lange [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2005 10:56 AM
> > To: Soaring@airage.com
> > Subject: Re: [RCSE] Re:Profi Multiplex 4000
> >
> > John Derstine wrote:
> > > First, to be fair, comparing a Profi 4000 to a 9303 function to
> function
> > > is not even close to the same level of radio. If you can get a
> Multiplex
> > > 4000, most of the mid level distributors for Hitec do not have them
> by
> > > the way, you will pay $1000.00 for a radio that is an incredibly
> > > flexible system.
> >
> > Or, you can get a used Profi 4000 for about the same price as a new
> 9303
> > or Evo. Turnabout is fair play! :)
> >
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