Well I guess you are right about that. This is like product liability or
something. At the consumer level. I have not read all the small print
disclaimers from DLink, Netgear or Linksys but I am sure they got themselves
covered in any case. I don't think consumers think they are vulnerable at
this level. I don't think it is to easy to disseminate basic security at
that level. Most people may not be dumb enough to transmit secure data over
a wireless connection but probably some people will do so. Still it would
seem like a lot to go through for a hacker to pick on some dumb user. There
are to many bigger fish. They just carry bigger penalties and risk.


----- Original Message -----
From: "Mike Outmesguine" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 3:50 PM
Subject: RE: [SOCALWUG] The Feds can own your WLAN too


> Not "everyone" knows that.  Some of us do... certainly those of us in the
> Wi-Fi community.  But most internet users do not know anything about
> wireless security, be it WEP, WPA, IPSEC, ABCDEFG, or anything.  These are
> the real plug-and-play people.
>
> What this article and demo is pointing out is that WEP is so fluid, that
> it's not really safe for anything except a speedbump in the parking lot of
> wireless intrusion.  The more people know that, one would hope, the less
> crimes of convenience there will be.
>
> But in 4 years of Wi-Fi data, we still are seeing only about one-third of
> wireless networks are using any security.  So for you top-tier, 98th
> percentile folks who know how to lock down a Wi-fi network, there's still
a
> need for you.
>
> -Mike
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf
> Of Thomas Maguire
> Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 3:19 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [SOCALWUG] The Feds can own your WLAN too
>
>
> But like WEP is a useless protocol; everyone knows that?
> That has been known forever.
> ????
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mike Outmesguine" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[email protected]>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 3:08 PM
> Subject: [SOCALWUG] The Feds can own your WLAN too
>
>
> > [Los Angeles FBI agents attend SOCALWUG meetings to stay on top of
what's
> > really going on in the wireless space.  It's great to see their wireless
> > experience carrying over to the general IT security community.  -Mike
O.]
> >
> >
> > From slashdot:
> > http://hardware.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/04/05/1428250
> > Feds Hack Wireless Network in 3 Minutes
> > Posted by CmdrTaco on Tuesday April 05, @12:26PM
> > from the still-can't-balance-budget dept.
> >
> > xs3 writes "At a recent ISSA (Information Systems Security Association)
> > meeting in Los Angeles, a team of FBI agents demonstrated current
> > WEP-cracking techniques and broke a 128 bit WEP key in about three
> minutes.
> > Special Agent Geoff Bickers ran the Powerpoint presentation and
explained
> > the attack, while the other agents (who did not want to be named or
> > photographed) did the dirty work of sniffing wireless traffic and
breaking
> > the WEP keys. This article will be a general overview of the procedures
> used
> > by the FBI team."
> >
> >
> > Here's the Tom's Hardware article by Humphrey Cheung:
> > http://www.tomsnetworking.com/Sections-article111.php
> >
> >
> >
>

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