Hi, On Wed, 2005-08-03 at 22:21 +0100, Daniel Carrera wrote: > Charles-H.Schulz wrote: > > > however, I > > don't agree with Daniel on Ubuntu. It seems, and I hope to be wrong, > > that Ubuntu is willingly not maintaining package compatibility with > > Debian and the rest of the derivatives; > > Do you have a reference for this? I was under the distinct impression > that Ubuntu had a good record with Debian because several Ubuntu > developers are Debian developers and they send their changes to Debian > (and Debian can of course refuse them). yes, this is right. My references, aside those quoted by Bruce, are Ian Murdock's blog, a newsforge article by himself (of course he says these things more dipmomatically), and many reactions about this on community forums. But as I said, I may and hope I'm wrong. > > Furthermore, saying "willingly" is claiming that you know their > *intentions*. Like you can read tehir minds. And that they are > malicious. That's a pretty hefty thing to say. I would advise that you > be careful when talking about people's intentions. Don't advise me about anything and take it easy. We're just talking. > > > > besides I see the opening of the > > Ubuntu foundation as a tentative to oppose the Debian/SPI organization; > > And that's just plain silly. Why is an Ubuntu foundation wrong, > Canonical, Linspire Co, and the other instututions that run Debian > derived distros ok? And why oh why would they want to "oppose" Debian? > First of all, what could you *mean* by "oppose"? And what in the world > could they possibly gain from that?
Silly? Well, go tell this to Ian Murdock. I'm just saying that many people including me have a hard time figuring out how and why an Ubuntu foundation was created in approximately the same time Debian, Progeny, Linspire, Xandros and other commercial and non commercial distros were founding the DCC, Debian Core Consortium. The DCC and the Ubuntu foundation are of course not the same thing, but it strikes a lot of people to see how Ubuntu has not chosen to be part of the DCC (especially as a not-for-profit organization). Now, that said, I do respect a lot the success of Ubuntu and its engineers. In fact, I think that Ubuntu is more interesting to analyze socially than technically or in the point of view of distro vs. distro. Best, Charles.
