Re: [SOCIAL CREDIT] Hell may NOT be "other people" ?

[Chick Hurst]

Alternative to War     I can feel the bayonet sharp And I can hear the angel’s harp While still in youth I am off to war Though war is yet to settle a score   Marching we to the master’s drum Two by two and one by one Marching we with grenade and gun The sergeant screams march my son   Who are we who march off to war  And why are we to settle a score Who are we to spit in the enemy’s eye While sabres rattle and mothers cry   Too young are we to know the way Of masters in their chosen play And send young solders off to war Patriotically do their deadly chore   Wives and mothers will cry at home To their children are yet unknown For freedom and liberty we are told And fair in truth it may be sold   For democracy and justice sure to be The truth untold we may never see For money and fame and pride is bent For property and power shall not repent   We have gone to war to posses the land We have gone to war for the master’s hand And we have gone to war for what we must But war is usually for the power trust   War isn’t pretty and it isn’t fun War isn’t romantic and you can not run The people die and the debt goes higher Business overheats like a funeral pyre   But there is a tool that can change the day Democracy well used can change the way Activity and vigilance is what it will take To avoid the destruction that war will make   Raymond S. Hurst           ----- Original Message ----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Social Credit Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 10:43 PM Subject: [SOCIAL CREDIT] Hell may NOT be "other people" ? In recent dialog Chick Hurst, Bill Ryan, and others (I believe) have considered hate, bigotry war and how people can overcome the past -- when hate first started -- to reach a future where all of us appreciate the best that's in other people with whom we used to war.   There is a possibility that political democracy offers a better social environment to hold hate and war in check.  There is also a similar possibility that economic democracy or well- being might also help to keep them in check.   Certainly we want both political and economic rights to protect individuals from tyranny and poverty -- even if these essential rights do not always prevent emotional disasters from in- fluencing and ruining our lives.  So I am happy to work for both political and economic democracy at home and abroad.   But, to hold hate in check also takes a  lot of help from friends, parents, teachers, clerics and mental health professionals. We say in jest, you can never be too rich or too thin.  More true is that we can never be too nice to other nice people.   Which brings us to the heart of the problem. What can be done about other people who are so rotten you have to war with them?   How do you prevent the number of "rotten people" around you from growing so large that it may be that YOU are the bad one and the others are really OK?   I cannot answer these questions.  But Sartre defined "hell" as "other people".   One anecdote and I'll quit --   In 1946, with my shipmates aboard the LST 1142 we returned thousands of Japanese troops and civilians from Shanghai and Tientsin to Japan.   A Japanese army captain whom we would have gladly killed a week before we met him spoke perfect English. Spontaneously, it seemd at the time, we were his best friend.   We did not get close to others who spoke no English (perhaps they had no chance to). But none of us -- the American crew -- seemed to dislike the defeated Japanese once the war was over.   How our Japanese returnees felt -- other than being anxious and defeated -- we did not know. But there was no HATE "in the air" as we fed them and gave them a place to sleep and  took them home.   John     ----- Original Message ----- From: Chick Hurst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 9:32 AM Subject: Re: [SOCIAL CREDIT] Policy of a Philosophy Chick Hurst . . . ----- Original Message ----- From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 9:41 AM Subject: RE: [SOCIAL CREDIT] Policy of a Philosophy . . . 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