On Mon, Feb 15, 2010 at 11:03:09AM +0100, Oliver Hartkopp wrote:
> Kurt Van Dijck wrote:
> > On Sat, Feb 13, 2010 at 05:32:52PM +0100, Oliver Hartkopp wrote:
> 
> >> Generally the address structure should only contain information that's 
> >> really
> >> needed to allow a usual communication requirement. Other things (like your
> >> isoname that should not be relevant here anyway) or special settings that
> >> differ from communication defaults could be set with sockopts.
> >>
> >> What do you think?
> >>
> >> Can you map your requirements to this reduced j1939 structure, or do you 
> >> feel
> >> there's something missing?
> > No, I feel there's a lot missing.
> > And talking without the real implementation known is bit weird.
> 
> It took quite a long time to create the socket programming interface for the
> CAN Transportprotocols i implemented so far (ISO-TP, and the stuff described
> in the doc on www.llcf.de).
I don't question that.
> 
> It's not the thing about the implementation. It's a matter of correct
> abstraction and what parameters are better placed into socketoptions.
> 
> If you look into
> 
> Bloch, J. How to Design a Good API and Why it Matters. Oct. 2005.
> http://lcsd05.cs.tamu.edu/slides/keynote.pdf
I will read.
> 
> you'll find these major points:
> 
> • Easy to learn
> • Easy to use, even without documentation
> • Hard to misuse
> • Easy to read and maintain code that uses it
> • Sufficiently powerful to satisfy requirements
> • Easy to extend
> • Appropriate to audience
> 
> Especially it has to be minimal in layout. And i'm sorry ... i find your
'less is more', and 'perfection is achieved when there is nothing left
to strip'. I agree.
> current suggestion for a j1939 address structure at least redundant in some 
> parts.
Mmmh.
> 
> Regards,
> Oliver
I'll come back on these in 2 weeks or so.

Kurt
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