On 3/20/2017 02:11, Julien Cigar wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 01:54:02AM +0100, Freek Dijkstra wrote:
>> On 20-03-2017 00:49, Jay Grizzard wrote:
>>
>>> I haven't fired up my 6501 to check the exact CPU model (...anyone want
>>> to buy it? It's of no use to me since Soekris never released the
>>> information needed to work with the FPGA), but I wonder if this could
>>> possibly be what's going on with them:
>>> https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/02/06/cisco_intel_decline_to_link_product_warning_to_faulty_chip/
>> That article seems only related to the Intel Atom C2000.
>> The net6501 contains an older Intel Atom E640, single chip processor
>> with EG20T companion chip.
>>
>> Of course, that doesn't exclude the possibility that something similar
>> is the cause.
>>
>> At least the lesson I learned from Dries is that it really is related to
>> the CPU, not to the power (as was previously suggested), and that it
>> might reboot if cooled down for a sufficiently long period of time.
>>
>> Well, mine stopped working last December after 5 years of operation as
>> my home router. I replaced it with something else (a Ubiquity
>> EdgeRouter), but I still had it lying around (mostly because I wanted to
>> reuse to two mSATA disks, which seems uncommon these days)
>>
>> Well 3 months of cooling down should be sufficient, so I couldn't help
>> to check what happens if I fire it up again, and to my surprise, it did
>> boot all the way just a few seconds ago!
>>
>> Not that it matters much, I guess it still is a bit too unreliable to my
>> taste.
> We bought 3 6501 2 years ago (for a redundant firewall/router +
> HAProxy). One of them died after a year, got replaced under warranty and
> died again 3 months later, another died just a few weeks agos, and the
> last one suffer from this puzzling "error led" problem (works until
> reboot, "sometimes" boot later, ...).
>
> I think there is definitively an hardware/BIOS issue with the board, I'm
> confident that the problem doesn't come from the power supply or an
> overheating from the CPU.
>
> As others I'm disappointed that Soekris is so silent on this issue,
> especially if the root cause doesn't come from a broken bios/PCB
> design/...
>
> As we run FreeBSD, we finally replaced those boxes with a RCC-VE 4860 1U 
> from Netgate (https://www.netgate.com/products/rcc-ve-4860-1u.html)
I'm curious if ADI Engineering has addressed the issue that Intel
identifed with the RCC-VE.  Also curious if those issues with the Intel
Avoton/C2000 chips is part of why the Soekris net6801 never went to
production...
>
>> Regards,
>> Freek
>>
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