BTW when this bug (with the render tree) will be fixed ? We have this
problem since SI2010 I think.I even made an event that opens the render
tree each time I open a scene.It's really annoying bug.

On Sat, Jul 7, 2012 at 4:27 PM, Chris Chia <chris.c...@autodesk.com> wrote:

> Hi Szabolcs,
> Try this:
> 1. Start xsi
> 2. Open render tree window
> 3. With the render tree window opened, open scene now
>
> See whether this helps.
>
> Chris
>
> On 7 Jul, 2012, at 5:16 PM, "Szabolcs Matefy" <szabol...@crytek.com>
> wrote:
>
> > And it happened again. The scene was saved successfully, I was working
> on the scene over an hour or so, and I had to restart SI, and the scene is
> unable to load...I tried with a fresh new install, in vain. Thanks god, it
> was nothing very important
> > It'd be nice to have a scene diagnostic tool, that tries to load the
> scene, and report any issues, in normal format, like Object %objectname%
> has issues with %description of the issue%
> >
> >
> >
> > Chris, I'll send the scene on Monday! Tear it apart...this is more
> annoying than a crash...
> >
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> >
> > Szabolcs
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com [mailto:
> softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Tim Leydecker
> > Sent: Friday, July 06, 2012 4:05 PM
> > To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
> > Subject: Re: WHATTA HELL???????
> >
> >
> > Thanks Chris!
> >
> > I´ll see if I can set up a generic repro scene on the weekend or on
> Monday.
> >
> > At least for the Regularize after Unfold thing.
> >
> > Regarding *.scn files not opening, I´m lucky enough to only have that on
> very rare occasions with third party render engines but usually merging
> scenes solved this sofar.
> >
> > I tend to use vanilla installs (except for the renderer) btw, since any
> shop you end up freelancing at will most likely not have that precious
> tool/plugin/script you´ve built your workflows around anyway...
> >
> > It´s hard enough to remember I use the Maya mouse button mappings for
> ZOOM/PAN/ETC but still the XSI keymapping...
> >
> > Always makes you look stupid when trying to navigate on another guys
> machine
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> >
> > tim
> >
> >
> > On 06.07.2012 14:55, Chris Chia wrote:
> >> Hi Tim,
> >> Just fyi, we treat every SI crash very seriously. If you have a scene
> file that causes a crash when opened or have performed certain operations
> in Softimage which lead to a crash, please let us know.
> >>
> >> Ps: but please ensure that you do not have any custom operator in the
> scene.
> >>
> >>
> >> Chris
> >>
> >>
> >> On 5 Jul, 2012, at 11:38 PM, "Tim Crowson" <
> tim.crow...@magneticdreams.com<mailto:tim.crow...@magneticdreams.com>>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> That's sad, because I've been feeling the same way about 2012's
> stability. Our artists have more crashes with 2012 SAP than they ever had
> with all previous versions of Soft combined.
> >>
> >>
> >> Tim Crowson
> >> Lead CG Artist
> >>
> >>
> >> <md_logo.gif>
> >>
> >>
> >> Magnetic Dreams Animation Studio, Inc.
> >> 2525 Lebanon Pike, Building C. Nashville, TN 37214 Ph  615.885.6801 |
> >> Fax  615.889.4768 |
> >> www.magneticdreams.com<http://www.magneticdreams.com>
> >> tim.crow...@magneticdreams.com<mailto:tim.crow...@magneticdreams.com>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 7/5/2012 10:28 AM, Szabolcs Matefy wrote:
> >>
> >> Thanks for all the comments and help!
> >>
> >> I managed to find an older crashsave, and I recovered the scene from
> it. I had Species rig in the scene, but it was working just fine, yet it
> removed it. I also had installed Move Normal prior to the disaster, so I
> removed it also. The scene was not opening any on our computers.
> >>
> >> I tend to believe what our artists say, SI 2013 line is cursed...they
> returned to 2012 SAP, and I am the sole 2013 user...
> >>
> >>
> >> Cheers
> >>
> >> Szabolcs
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From:
> >> softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com<mailto:softimage-bounces@listp
> >> roc.autodesk.com> [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On
> >> Behalf Of Rob Chapman
> >> Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2012 2:47 PM
> >> To: ThomasV;
> >> softimage@listproc.autodesk.com<mailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
> >>>
> >> Subject: Re: WHATTA HELL???????
> >>
> >> and tried  merging the problematic scene?  been here before, its
> >> horrible :/   think there is some debug mode you can switch on in the
> >> SI startup script as well which may help, Fabrice did a while back
> >> when we encountered some errors on previously loadable scenes , think
> >> it was an error on a reference model in the end
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 5 July 2012 13:42, ThomasV <li...@thomasvolkmann.com><mailto:
> li...@thomasvolkmann.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> Try opening on another system (win <-> linux) if possible. A while ago
> >> I could open scenes on my linux-box, that were crashing on Win.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> good luck!
> >>
> >> /Thomas
> >>
> >>
> >> Szabolcs Matefy <szabol...@crytek.com><mailto:szabol...@crytek.com>
> >> hat am 5. Juli 2012 um 14:28
> >> geschrieben:
> >>
> >> I am on 2013 SP1
> >>
> >> I can't load the backups, instant crash
> >>
> >> I removed the new plugins, no help
> >>
> >> I tried all you suggested, in vain
> >>
> >> I sacrifice a black rooster, maybe Baron Samedi will help to fix this...
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> From:
> >> softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com<mailto:softimage-bounces@listp
> >> roc.autodesk.com> [mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On
> >> Behalf Of Peter Agg
> >> Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2012 2:25 PM
> >> To:
> >> softimage@listproc.autodesk.com<mailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
> >>>
> >> Subject: Re: WHATTA HELL???????
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Try unloading any reference models using the scntoc file. That has
> >> sometimes helped to narrow down the problem for me.
> >>
> >> On 5 July 2012 13:19, Simon Anderson <simonbenandersonl...@gmail.com
> ><mailto:simonbenandersonl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> are you using softimage 2010?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 10:17 PM, Pete Edmunds <pete3dmu...@gmail.com
> ><mailto:pete3dmu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Have a look in the Backup folder within the project there should be 4
> >> backups of that scene do those load?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 5 July 2012 13:12, Martin <furik...@gmail.com><mailto:
> furik...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> This may not be what you are looking for but, after you have tried
> >> everything, you could try to open it with "Disable all geometry
> >> operators on load" checked and/or some other options in the Scene
> Debugging tab.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> If the scene is simple there may be some data you can recover.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> M.Yara
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 9:06 PM, Ben Houston <b...@exocortex.com><mailto:
> b...@exocortex.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> I would suggest ensuring that no third party plugins are loaded at
> >> all.  It could be you updated a plugin and that plugin is buggy.
> >> -ben
> >>
> >>
> >> On Thu, Jul 5, 2012 at 8:02 AM, Szabolcs Matefy
> >> <szabol...@crytek.com><mailto:szabol...@crytek.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> Can anybody tell me what can I do, if I can't load my scenes saved
> >> previously and loaded perfectly this before?????? Suddenly Softimage
> >> crashes on my scenes, and it seems that I lost whole 3 days of job.
> >> However, there were no crashes, and no issues at all...What the hell is
> >> going on????????
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Cheers
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Szabolcs
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