That's the gambling market.. money is made by speculating about how much one could sell the stock to someone else in the future. The way the stock market was supposed to work was that you bought shares in a company in order to own part of it and get dividends, proportional to your number of shares, from that company's revenue. In any case, it's not a reflection of how many people run windows vs macs, which is how this all started. :)
On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 2:23 PM, Gene Crucean <emailgeneonthel...@gmail.com> wrote: >> but the stock is cheap because it doesn't attract gamblers. > > > Actually... it's cheap because why would I dump money into a stock that > hasn't done jack sh** in 5 years, vs dumping money into a company that's > exploding. Proof: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/403879/AppleVsMS.png > > ... but feel free to defend MS every time I post something about Apple. I'm > not really sure why you do that Luc. > > > > > On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 10:52 AM, Kiril Aronofski <flyone...@gmail.com> > wrote: >> >> RE: desktops are doomed >> >> Don't forget all this mobile devices are consumerist in nature - someone >> will somehow still have to create the content for them to consume. Desktop >> sales are in decline as most people realize they can survive with a tablet >> and a phone. In my opinion Microsoft is trying to leverage both worlds by >> making this hybrid system where "a desktop" is a professional environment >> you can enter if you wish so, but "metro" is the frontend - something most >> users will be spending their time in. For the record, I do not think they >> are even close to making it all work right now. They have invaded >> power-user's/enterprise's space heavily and sacrificed it in an effort to >> appeal to the market they desperately need a foot in. Than again, PC's have >> been skipping every other version of windows forever now so how is this >> anything new? >> >> And Gene, I agree he shouldn't be talking down to onyone based on what OS >> they are using... but Apple's dominance is in mobile world (in other words, >> iOS) and that's where their value comes from. Microsoft still owns the >> largest chunk of desktop market so, technically, he is offending only a >> small percentage of "just about everyone". >> >> >> -Kiril >> >> >> >> On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 7:26 PM, Nicolas Burtnyk <nico...@redshift3d.com> >> wrote: >>>> >>>> As you know there is no link between the valuation on the gambling >>>> market that is the stock market, and the actual results of a company. >>>> Microsoft has sold more than 650 million licenses of Windows 7 in >>>> three years, but the stock is cheap because it doesn't attract >>>> gamblers. >>> >>> >>> Actually Apple and Microsoft have almost identical PE ratios so their >>> stock price vs. actual company performance (earnings) is almost identical. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 10:18 AM, Luc-Eric Rousseau <luceri...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 12:56 PM, Gene Crucean >>>> <emailgeneonthel...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >> "They're mac users after all." >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > You know you are talking down to just about everybody these days >>>> > right? >>>> > Apple was just reported as the worlds most valuable company. >>>> > >>>> > http://www.usatoday.com/money/industries/technology/story/2012-08-20/apple-most-valuable-company/57161260/1 >>>> > (check the dates on that too. MS hasn't been at that valuation since >>>> > 1999!!!) >>>> >>>> As you know there is no link between the valuation on the gambling >>>> market that is the stock market, and the actual results of a company. >>>> Microsoft has sold more than 650 million licenses of Windows 7 in >>>> three years, but the stock is cheap because it doesn't attract >>>> gamblers. >>>> >>>> But if we want to play that game, adjusted for inflation MS was at >>>> $853.7 billion in 1999. that number doesn't compare to apple's >>>> $623.5 billion valuation today, it went much higher. And >>>> meaninglessly so, because that's just a measure how much traders think >>>> other traders will buy the stock for. >>>> >>>> >>>> http://www.forbes.com/sites/stevedenning/2011/11/28/maximizing-shareholder-value-the-dumbest-idea-in-the-world/ >>> >>> >> > > > > -- > Gene Crucean - Emmy winning - Oscar nominated VFX Supervisor / iOS-OSX > Developer / Filmmaker / Photographer > ** Freelance for hire ** > www.genecrucean.com > > ~~ Please use my website's contact form on www.genecrucean.com for any > personal emails. Thanks. I may not get them at this address. ~~ >
