Not bad.

After thinking about a bit, I've decided to repair my current workstation as it 
only cost $80 and it will allow me more time to research the purchase decision 
more deeply.  I'm primarily interested in replacing the home workstation so it 
doesn't consume so much space, but still gives me the power to do what I need 
to do, as well as make me mobile.  However the function has to be their first.  
Editing 36 MP images on a laptop screen doesn't sound so appealing at the 
moment.

If I go with a laptop I'll want a minimum of a 1080p resolution.  I don't see 
why my phone should have a higher resolution than my laptop.

Matt



From: softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com 
[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com] On Behalf Of Stephen Davidson
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2013 6:38 AM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com
Subject: Re: everybody's favorite question...

Just saw this and thought of this thread.
http://www.woot.com/offers/hp-17-3-quad-core-i7-laptop-11



This link is only good for maybe an hour, though
HP Pavilion M7-1015DX Laptop, 17.3" HD+ BrightView LED,
Intel Core i7-3610QM Quad-Core 2.3GHz, 8GB DDR3, 1TB SATA,
HDMI, USB 3.0, Beats Audio, 802.11n, W7HP
1600 x 900 display
$599.99

Not sure of the graphics, though. At that price you could
add a Quadro card and still be a good deal.

Forgive this post...it is an ad, I know, but I do not work for them.
I just thought it was a deal worth mentioning.




On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 4:00 PM, Stephen Davidson 
<magic...@bellsouth.net<mailto:magic...@bellsouth.net>> wrote:
If money is not an issue (twice the price of my previous post), this one is 
good, but short battery life...
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2376739,00.asp

OK... sorry for the multiple posts....I'm done. I hope this helps.


On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 3:55 PM, Stephen Davidson 
<magic...@bellsouth.net<mailto:magic...@bellsouth.net>> wrote:
...or even this refurbished laptop:
http://www.buy.com/prod/hp-elitebook-8740w-wh276ut-17-led-notebook-intel-core-i7-i7-720qm-1/214983440.html?listingId=235509521

On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 3:52 PM, Stephen Davidson 
<magic...@bellsouth.net<mailto:magic...@bellsouth.net>> wrote:
so, something like this might do the trick?:
http://dealnews.com/Lenovo-Ivy-i7-Quad-16-Laptop-w-Quadro-2-GB-GPU-for-1-205-free-shipping/657079.html


On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 2:55 PM, Matt Lind 
<ml...@carbinestudios.com<mailto:ml...@carbinestudios.com>> wrote:
Basically what I'm hearing from everybody is laptop still isn't cost effective 
for what I intend it for.

To answer a few questions:

I am insisting on a Quadro graphics card because here at the studio we've 
tested every GeForce released in the past 7 years and it's been a crapshoot 
whether they work reliably or not with Softimage - especially with OpenGL 
shaders.  Problems range from flakey behavior to blue screens.  I have had 
almost no issues with Quadros.  I would prefer to pay a little more upfront for 
assurance my sparse free time is put to good use on my hobby than 
troubleshooting and pulling out what little hair I have left to get that extra 
ounce of performance which doesn't matter in the long run.

I won't be doing long intensive 3D renders as my focus will be on realtime 
stuff, but I may be doing some IO intensive data streaming for video editing.  
I will be working with large raw files from my D-SLR, so 14 bit log color 
support is important.  It's not an issue if I can plug a laptop into a full 
size monitor.  I'd also like to do some cross platform development between 
Windows and Linux. Some will be Softimage plugins, others being Android apps or 
standalone apps for home use which use OpenGL.

I purchased my current workstation from Dell outlet in 2005 and was a great 
deal (50% off).  I decked it out to maximize processing power and IO bandwidth, 
then purchased the Quadro separately from Ebay.  I was considering doing the 
same thing again until I saw the handwriting on the wall about everything 
moving to the cloud, realtime, mobile, and so on.  If the decision was purely 
financial a workstation would be a no-brainer, but it didn't look like a smart 
investment for the long term if the goal is to be technologically relevant down 
the road as these technologies progress.  That's my dilemma and motivation for 
a laptop. I was considering the Dell precision mobile workstation 6670 from 
Dell outlet, but last inspection this weekend showed the configurations I was 
looking for already sold out :(    The laptops recommended on Nvidia's website 
are no longer available for HP and Lenovo.

I already have the Galaxy Note phablet, therefore I don't need a tablet at this 
time.

Sooo....workstation now with short relevant lifespan or pay a little extra for 
a laptop which isn't quite feasible yet?  Hmmm...


Matt





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From: 
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[mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com<mailto:softimage-boun...@listproc.autodesk.com>]
 On Behalf Of Tim Leydecker
Sent: Saturday, January 12, 2013 2:56 AM
To: softimage@listproc.autodesk.com<mailto:softimage@listproc.autodesk.com>
Subject: Re: everybody's favorite question...
Hi Matt,

for people in the US, there´s pretty good refurbished hardware available from 
Apple, Dell, HP and possibly a bunch more:

HP
http://www.hp.com/sbso/buspurchase_refurbished_specials.html?

Dell (laptop link but there´s more if you search for refurbished on the site) 
http://www.dell.com/us/dfb/p/precision-laptops

Apple
http://store.apple.com/us/browse/home/specialdeals/mac


I would think that the above and the likes give a good balance between 
guaranteed performance and pricing for a dedicated home use and may allow to 
access features otherwise too expensive to justify for a personal machine.

Personally, I wouldn´t expect a laptop to last longer than 2 years for it´s 
primary use but can imagine there´s enough options to pick from for a solid, 
mobile experience and a pricetag that´s justifiable accordingly.

It shouldn´t hurt too much if it´s stolen or broken suddenly, imo.


Cheers,


tim






On 12.01.2013 04:15, Matt Lind wrote:
> .What computer should I get? (for home).
>
> I have always used workstations and have already done the research for
> another purchase.  However, it's been nearly 8 years since my last
> investment and my trusty Dell Precision workstation is starting to
> fail L.  I am considering going mobile this time.  I'm asking for
> people's experience with laptops as I have never used a laptop for 3D
> work before and have mostly heard bad things in the area of reliability and 
> lack of selection.  I don't need top of the line, but I am interested in 
> something durable that won't break the bank and performs at least as well as 
> a mid-grade workstation.  Besides 3D, I'll be doing a lot of coding, 
> photography (editing), and some video with my DSLR.  So color accuracy and IO 
> would be important features.  I would tend to think an SSD hard drive, 
> multi-core CPU (4+), USB 3.0, a decent Nvidia Quadro card would be a good 
> baseline.  Anything else people recommend in a laptop?  Or to avoid?
>
> Please reply offline.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Matt
>



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       (954) 552-7956
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